@averagejoe1 saidNo such thing.
Hey, you independent conservatives
Just ask those who received corporate bailouts, Trump's 1 trillion dollar tax break, the Texans who received government assistance after the ice-storm or after the hurricane, the Floridians who got government aid after most of the southern tip was flooded, etc. etc.
No one is "independent" of the government. You claim to be a business owner; you need the government to enforce any contracts signed by anyone you do business with, as well as roads, electricity and everything else taxes pay for.
The people who are closest to being "independent" are the Amish but even they may need the services of law enforcement, firefighters, etc.
03 Aug 23
@vivify saidWow, so insightful and enlightening. Just imagine if we each had our own highway and our own firedepartment. It is certainly better to share same. So you got me, libs and conservatives share the roads!!!!!
No such thing.
Just ask those who received corporate bailouts, Trump's 1 trillion dollar tax break, the Texans who received government assistance after the ice-storm or after the hurricane, the Floridians who got government aid after most of the southern tip was flooded, etc. etc.
No one is "independent" of the government. You claim to be a business owner; you need ...[text shortened]... ndependent" are the Amish but even they may need the services of law enforcement, firefighters, etc.
@averagejoe1 saidI also mentioned tax breaks, emergency relief, law enforcement and government to regulate business contracts. So you ignore all of those to make a weak attempt at sarcasm?
Wow, so insightful and enlightening. Just imagine if we each had our own highway and our own firedepartment. It is certainly better to share same. So you got me, libs and conservatives share the roads!!!!!
Do you understand why you get mocked so often?
@metal-brain saidRead a reliable article halfwit it’s not about debt it’s about the ongoing political partisanship / instability in general and specifically the debt ceiling cliff that Republican controlled H o R has been dragging the USA every time they get a chance.
@kevcvs57
Stop the partisan blame game. Both sides rack up debt.
Who voted to raise the debt ceiling last time in congress? Mostly democrats. Right?
Then when a Republican becomes POTUS the republican congress conveniently loses their will to fight limiting debt. Right?
You cannot expect to be days away from defaulting on your debt every couple of years without it effecting your credit rating stupid. It has nothing to do with the amount of debt which you correctly point out is racked up by both parties.
It’s also about the widening gap between both parties and the disappearance of the centre.
03 Aug 23
@vivify saidSo you don't get it with my example,, you like screed like,, ala Sonhouse and Marauder the Linksman.
I also mentioned tax breaks, emergency relief and government to enforce business contracts. So you ignore all of those to make a weak attempt at sarcasm?
Do you understand why you get mocked so often?
You get my drift, Vivify, no one is fooled by your feigning pure ingnorance of my point. Gooly, I should have said emergecny relief, hospitals, sreet cleaners, garbage pickup,,,,,,,ohhhh, and how could I omit grade school>
Get a grip. What is REALLY eating you? Things like Biden lying that Hunter made no money out of China, only to find out that Hunter said he DID make money?
If you are just a mess, how about you comfort yourself by listing more of the things that citizens share in a socialistic manner, like maybe a city park? Why, I left that out, too. Weak man , weak.
03 Aug 23
@averagejoe1 saidYou are deliberately downplaying how much you rely on the government because you understand that you're in no way "independent".
So you don't get it with my example,, you like screed like,, ala Sonhouse and Marauder the Linksman.
You get my drift, Vivify, no one is fooled by your feigning pure ingnorance of my point. Gooly, I should have said emergecny relief, hospitals, sreet cleaners, garbage pickup,,,,,,,ohhhh, and how could I omit grade school>
Get a grip. What is REALLY eating yo ...[text shortened]... share in a socialistic manner, like maybe a city park? Why, I left that out, too. Weak man , weak.
As far as Biden, I don't give a damn about him. Lock him up if you want, the only thing he's good for is keeping Trump out of office. My only issue is when you spout lies or stupid arguments to support your position. Otherwise, damn near every Democrat in the country agrees he shouldn't be president.
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@kevcvs57 saidyou read it…
Read a reliable article halfwit it’s not about debt it’s about the ongoing political partisanship / instability in general and specifically the debt ceiling cliff that Republican controlled H o R has been dragging the USA every time they get a chance.
You cannot expect to be days away from defaulting on your debt every couple of years without it effecting your credit rating ...[text shortened]... parties.
It’s also about the widening gap between both parties and the disappearance of the centre.
“Explaining its rationale for the downgrade, Fitch pointed to “the expected fiscal deterioration over the next three years, a high and growing general government debt burden, and the erosion of governance relative to ‘AA’ and ‘AAA’ rated peers over the last two decades that has manifested in repeated debt limit standoffs and last-minute resolutions.””
https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/01/business/fitch-downgrade-us-debt/index.html#:~:text=Explaining%20its%20rationale%20for%20the,manifested%20in%20repeated%20debt%20limit
03 Aug 23
@mott-the-hoople saidYOU read it.
you read it…
“Explaining its rationale for the downgrade, Fitch pointed to “the expected fiscal deterioration over the next three years, a high and growing general government debt burden, and the erosion of governance relative to ‘AA’ and ‘AAA’ rated peers over the last two decades that has manifested in repeated debt limit standoffs and last-minute resoluti ...[text shortened]... ndex.html#:~:text=Explaining%20its%20rationale%20for%20the,manifested%20in%20repeated%20debt%20limit
“Explaining its rationale for the downgrade, Fitch pointed to “the expected fiscal deterioration over the next three years, a high and growing general government debt burden, and the erosion of governance relative to ‘AA’ and ‘AAA’ rated peers over the last two decades that has manifested in repeated debt limit standoffs and last-minute resolutions.””
Thanks, Republicans.
03 Aug 23
@kevcvs57 saidExactly.
More than anything else Fitch is citing the cyclical debt ceiling chicken game played by Republican congress when ever they have a majority in the HoR and a democrat in the White House along with the extreme the polarisation of the body politic. It began before trump and will carry on without him but trump is the single most obvious manifestation of it today
Never once mentioned the green deal or any other Biden economic initiative.
It’s not trump though mott, it’s you!
04 Aug 23
@mott-the-hoople saidSo your blaming Trumps trillion dollar tax give away to GOP donors that’s refreshingly honest of you but debt is only a problem for the US if ratings bodies like fitch think your going to default on that debt, the US economy runs hot and it runs on debt
you read it…
“Explaining its rationale for the downgrade, Fitch pointed to “the expected fiscal deterioration over the next three years, a high and growing general government debt burden, and the erosion of governance relative to ‘AA’ and ‘AAA’ rated peers over the last two decades that has manifested in repeated debt limit standoffs and last-minute resoluti ...[text shortened]... ndex.html#:~:text=Explaining%20its%20rationale%20for%20the,manifested%20in%20repeated%20debt%20limit
The US is going to get a future financial return for Biden’s investment in the industrial and infrastructure base as are the majority of its citizens.
Unlike Trump who gave his own organisation a tax break the proceeds of which are just as likely to get invested in Chinas industrial and infrastructure base.
Look behind you mott trumps not even wearing a condom
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@shavixmir said“Me thinks the financial downgrade is the least of America’s worries.”
trump and his supporters are generally to blame the last 8 years or so, for the US’s decline in international opinions.
However, it started with Raygun. But that was just the left-wing intelligensia noticing the religious stupidity entering politics and coming away with crackers like “just say no.”
Then Bush jr.
My God. That man was thick. And so many Americans drivi ...[text shortened]... walk off a stage in dignity.
Me thinks the financial downgrade is the least of America’s worries.
most of us remember a couple of years ago when we had money in our pockets, food on the table, no money flowing to foreign wars.
how long has biden been pres? 😂