25 Jul 14
Originally posted by finneganthe un was right
The UN opposed the American and British invasion of Iraq. Who was wrong?
Sudan, Iraq and Syria demonstrate the catastrophe arising when there is a failed state and the problems require a stable government as the only solution.
Israel places an economic embargo on Gaza and controls the key economic resources of all Palestinians. The only government ca ...[text shortened]... over, the lack of effective, democratic government lies at the root of these terrible problems.
Originally posted by finneganThe Dutch public reacted with a mixture of bewilderment and amusement when in 2002, Bush signed a Republican-sponsored law that would authorize military force without Congressional approval to rescue American personnel on trial in the International Criminal Court in The Hague.The UN has no more legitimacy whatsoeverThe UN has immense respect and support from around the world. It also has enemies of whom the greatest is the rogue state USA. The US expects to control key UN resources in such a way that the UN can be manipulated for US interests. The US is unlikely ever to accept accountability to any UN body, for ex ...[text shortened]... porations? The battle is on and it has largely gone to the corporations in the past forty years.
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26 Jul 14
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Originally posted by finneganThe elevator does not go all the way to the top, does it Finnegan.
[b]The UN opposed the American and British invasion of Iraq. Who was wrong?
Saddam wiped out an entire city of Kurds due to his genocidal tendencies and the UN did nothing.
In that region the only people worth much of anything seem to be the Israelis and Kurds. They alone could live side by side in peace even though they are Muslim and Jew. It is interesting, however, that the UN seems to target or ignore them both.
26 Jul 14
Originally posted by whodeyWhat do you imagine the UN could have done that it failed to do?
The elevator does not go all the way to the top, does it Finnegan.
Saddam wiped out an entire city of Kurds due to his genocidal tendencies and the UN did nothing.
In that region the only people worth much of anything seem to be the Israelis and Kurds. They alone could live side by side in peace even though they are Muslim and Jew. It is interesting, however, that the UN seems to target or ignore them both.
Saddam was bad - foul. Removing Saddam was always going to be a good idea. Dismantling the entire basis for self government and replacing it with intractable sectarian violence was not entirely a great solution.
Israel and the Kurds have functioning governments. The Kurds use theirs to achieve a measure of self determination albeit in a complex negotiation with the rest of Iraq and with nervous neighbours like Turkey who worry about their own Kurdish population getting similar ideas. The Israelis use theirs to oppress their neighbours and to implement apartheid backed by violence. The Americans fund the Israeli war machine.
26 Jul 14
Originally posted by finneganSo you were against the UN removing Gaddafi as well then?
What do you imagine the UN could have done that it failed to do?
Saddam was bad - foul. Removing Saddam was always going to be a good idea. Dismantling the entire basis for self government and replacing it with intractable sectarian violence was not entirely a great solution.
Israel and the Kurds have functioning governments. The Kurds use theirs t ...[text shortened]... bours and to implement apartheid backed by violence. The Americans fund the Israeli war machine.