14 Feb 08
Originally posted by der schwarze Ritterenjoy a 5 day work week? thank a union member. like overtime after 40hrs. thank the unions. Pensions? unions. health insurance? unions. paid holidays? unions. fair labor laws? unions.
All unions do, shavixmir, is protect the lazy and the incompetent, as well as drive up the cost of goods and services. Moreover, unions act like a kind of tax on the rest of us, however, there is never any sort of return benefit in the form of government spending on social services, roads, civic buildings, etc.
14 Feb 08
Originally posted by duecerYou really need to see this you union dupe:
enjoy a 5 day work week? thank a union member. like overtime after 40hrs. thank the unions. Pensions? unions. health insurance? unions. paid holidays? unions. fair labor laws? unions.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IAGoBjrCnqc
14 Feb 08
Originally posted by BogleBoo hoo.
I am not living on the 'State', as commies like you would wish. Instead it benefits from my paying about £12,000 net in taxes every year with little to show for it. So just pipe down and be grateful.
I think we've already established, in one of your earlier incarnations, that you get benefits from the state.
So just pipe down and enjoy your free tv at our expense.
15 Feb 08
Originally posted by RedmikeThis user still professes communism despite the fact that it has proved in practice to lead to the establishment of tyranical regimes at least as bad, if not worse, than fascism.
Boo hoo.
I think we've already established, in one of your earlier incarnations, that you get benefits from the state.
So just pipe down and enjoy your free tv at our expense.
He also specialises in posting lies about those who oppose his crackpot political views. Fortunately he is pretty harmless since few today are gullible enough to swallow the nonsense he preaches.
15 Feb 08
Originally posted by BogleSo... what goods have capitalism brought us, besides child labour, starvation, fascism (which is a follow-up on capitalism), wars, suffering and millions of civilians being killed?
This user still professes communism despite the fact that it has proved in practice to lead to the establishment of tyranical regimes at least as bad, if not worse, than fascism.
He also specialises in posting lies about those who oppose his crackpot political views. Fortunately he is pretty harmless since few today are gullible enough to swallow the nonsense he preaches.
15 Feb 08
Originally posted by smw6869They think of themselves first, everyone else second. There is a lot of room for discussion on why jobs are shipped overseas, not the least of which is comparitive slave labor. If we had fair trade policies vs, free trade policies, more of those jobs would have stayed.
Or fat bloated Americans that own stock in corporations which drives the Corps to think of their stockholders first, maybe?
F. GRANNY.
15 Feb 08
Originally posted by duecerBut then we wouldn't be able to buy all that cheap crap at Wallmart. Instead, we'd be paying high prices for all that crap crap, Maybe?
They think of themselves first, everyone else second. There is a lot of room for discussion on why jobs are shipped overseas, not the least of which is comparitive slave labor. If we had fair trade policies vs, free trade policies, more of those jobs would have stayed.
F. Granny.
16 Feb 08
Originally posted by smw6869when the manufacture of american brand name jeans were shipped overseas in the 80's the rational would be that we would save money on clothing, which is an essential item (clothing in general), however, this was not the case. The prices stayed stagnent, and the corporations were making more money per pair of jeans, with no savings to the consumer.
But then we wouldn't be able to buy all that cheap crap at Wallmart. Instead, we'd be paying high prices for all that crap crap, Maybe?
F. Granny.
16 Feb 08
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Originally posted by rwingettAh. The IWW—you ole Wob, you. 🙂
Yes. All these little, fragmented trade unions simply don't have the power they need to contend with multi-national corporations.
We need One Big Union.
Where have I heard that before?
Elizabeth Gurley Flynn
Big Bill Haywood
Mother Jones
“I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night
alive as you and me.
‘But Joe,’ says I, ‘you’re ten years dead!’
‘I never died,’ said he. ‘I never died,’ said he.”
(That’s from memory, so it might not be exactly right.)
EDIT: The union that I belonged to, and later worked for, merged into the USW a few years ago. I’ve been out of it for some years, though, and so really can’t comment much. There have been a number of union mergers within the US, largely for economic reasons in the face of declining membership and a negative organizing environment. Merging across national boundaries seems more of a strategic move, in the face of capital often being more mobile internationally than labor; I suspect it will take some years to see if it will have any major impact on either organizing or collective bargaining.
16 Feb 08
Originally posted by vistesdIt only makes sense. Business has long since gone international. Labor will forever be at a disadvantage until they do the same.
Ah. The IWW—you ole Wob, you. 🙂
Elizabeth Gurley Flynn
Big Bill Haywood
Mother Jones
“I dreamed I saw Joe Hill last night
alive as you and me.
‘But Joe,’ says I, ‘you’re ten years dead!’
‘I never died,’ said he. ‘I never died,’ said he.”
(That’s from memory, so it might not be exactly right.)
EDIT: The union that I belonged to, and later ...[text shortened]... ome years to see if it will have any major impact on either organizing or collective bargaining.
What did you used to do?