@patzering saidWait till you get hit by a car.
Thank you.
Health care coverage is a personal responsibility not a right.
Most people who require health care abused their bodies and want others to pay for it.
@moonbus saidI have once before.
Wait till you get hit by a car.
I went up and over lol.
I landed on my back with a backpack on.
That backpack saved me from cracking my head open.
I did not go to the hospital but I did need a week off from work.
I've paid taxes for health care my whole life so I've earned any medical care that I may need.
@patzering saidHow much did you pay? I might qualify too.
I have once before.
I went up and over lol.
I landed on my back with a backpack on.
That backpack saved me from cracking my head open.
I did not go to the hospital but I did need a week off from work.
I've paid taxes for health care my whole life so I've earned any medical care that I may need.
@Mott-The-Hoople
I figure 50 years of paying into SS is enough and now I get 2100 a month so once again you are full of shyte. And BTW, I am in very good health, not been in hospital for about 25 years, take only one med to control blood pressure so it is not me dragging the system down.
Also, EVERYONE on SS pays for medicare coverage no matter how little or how much you have worked.
Also you completely ignored my question as to why supplimental cost about the same as medicare even though it has 1/5th the financial load, it should cost 40 or so bucks a month.
@quackquack saidIt is true, albeit not magically so. The point that you're still missing is that pretty much every universal health care system out there in the industrialized world (even the ones that are mostly privatized) are so much more efficient than the American system that they cost less despite covering more.
It would be nice if that were magically true but if we increase access to healthcare demand will increase and costs will go up substantially.
@KazetNagorra
And with repubs in power the chance of our health care system becoming more efficient in terms of care V dollars spent, not going to happen since so many republicans are in the pockets of big pharm.
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@kazetnagorra saidIt's not about efficiency. It's about a (relative...) lack of corruption.
It is true, albeit not magically so. The point that you're still missing is that pretty much every universal health care system out there in the industrialized world (even the ones that are mostly privatized) are so much more efficient than the American system that they cost less despite covering more.
In Europe, some (and sure, kill us all, I'll admit to "too much"😉 money is wasted on inefficiencies in healthcare, including overhead in insurance companies.
In the Mammon-given land of the USA, an Imperial s&*tload more money is not wasted, but given away willingly, not to insurers, but to the fat cats running the insurers, the ambulance chasers, the lobbyists, the GOP refuseniks, the Libertarian palm-greasers, in fact just about everybody involved except the patients and the people actually doing the work.
Say whatever you want about our inefficiency and waste, no country in the world is that corrupt when it comes to healthcare, and the numbers bear that out to anyone except Rand Paul.
Calling it "less efficient" implies that it is accidental. It is not. It is quite, quite intentional in the all-out capitalist, f#^(-the-poor "society" that is the USA.
@kazetnagorra saidYour assuming that increasing access to people would increase the efficiency of the system. There is no reason to believe that is true.
It is true, albeit not magically so. The point that you're still missing is that pretty much every universal health care system out there in the industrialized world (even the ones that are mostly privatized) are so much more efficient than the American system that they cost less despite covering more.
@quackquack saidThere's a reason. It's called "the real world."
Your assuming that increasing access to people would increase the efficiency of the system. There is no reason to believe that is true.
I think it would be great if right wingers in the public arena were as open with their objections to universal health care as they are here; essentially they are saying that sick people are to blame for their own health problems and should simply die unless they have X amount of dollars.
Perhaps politicians acceptable to those holding such views could hold campaign events in Pediatric cancer wards.
