@metal-brain saidThere, you satisfied now? Georgia recounted and Biden won. A Trump appointed judge confirmed he would not quash the finding. There was no fraud, there was no conspiracy. The fraud and conspiracy theories all emanate from Trump's WH.
Because a democrat ruling against Trump is proof otherwise, right?
https://ballotpedia.org/Cynthia_Stephens
I would be more impressed if judges ruling against Trump were republicans.
"Gabriel Sterling, a Republican who serves as Georgia's voting system implementation manager, told CNN on Thursday: "One of the big complaints is these machines somehow flipped votes or changed votes or did stuff. They didn't, at least not in Georgia. We proved it." . . .
Republicans lost their final lawsuit in Georgia as a court rejected their effort to block the results' certification, which is due to happen on Friday. The judge who dismissed the case was appointed by Mr Trump last year."
Quoted from:
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-55006188
Republican Senator Mitt Romney:
"Having failed to make even a plausible case of widespread fraud or conspiracy before any court of law, the President has now resorted to overt pressure on state and local officials to subvert the will of the people and overturn the election," Romney wrote. "It is difficult to imagine a worse, more undemocratic action by a sitting American President."
Furthermore, all of Giulani's lies debunked:
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics/giuliani-trump-legal-team-press-briefing-fact-check/index.html
20 Nov 20
@moonbus said"There, you satisfied now? Georgia recounted and Biden won"
There, you satisfied now? Georgia recounted and Biden won. A Trump appointed judge confirmed he would not quash the finding. There was no fraud, there was no conspiracy. The fraud and conspiracy theories all emanate from Trump's WH.
"Gabriel Sterling, a Republican who serves as Georgia's voting system implementation manager, told CNN on Thursday: "One of the big complain ...[text shortened]... //edition.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics/giuliani-trump-legal-team-press-briefing-fact-check/index.html
The Georgia recount is not finished that I am aware of. If I missed the news of it tell me what the difference between the first count and the recount is?
@Metal-Brain
Trump picked up about 1300 votes in the recount. Biden still leads by 13,554 votes in Georgia (see second link below). The result is expected to be confirmed by the state governor on Friday.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/georgia-expected-release-results-trump-biden-hand-recount-n1248234
https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/GA/105369/web.264614/#/summary
20 Nov 20
@moonbus saidFunny how they went to Trump instead of Biden.
@Metal-Brain
Trump picked up about 1300 votes in the recount. Biden still leads by 13,554 votes in Georgia (see second link below). The result is expected to be confirmed by the state governor on Friday.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/georgia-expected-release-results-trump-biden-hand-recount-n1248234
https://results.enr.clarityelections.com/GA/105369/web.264614/#/summary
What about 3rd party candidates?
@metal-brain saidIt seems that counties run by Republicans are more prone to human errors like not uploading memory cards.
Funny how they went to Trump instead of Biden.
What about 3rd party candidates?
@metal-brain saidWhat's funny? Do you think it is suspicious? If every state conducted a recount, some might add votes to Biden's tally. The important finding in GA is that there was no fraud, no intent and no conspiracy to steal the election, as Trump has repeatedly claimed.
Funny how they went to Trump instead of Biden.
What about 3rd party candidates?
Of the 4998389 votes cast in GA, 1300 represents 0.026%, which is minuscule. That is well within tolerance for any machine shop grinding crankshafts.
There was a third party candidate in GA, Libertarian, who polled 62,000 some odd votes. I do not know whether the recount changed that result.
20 Nov 20
@moonbus saidThis is the most important point in your post.
Republican Senator Mitt Romney:
"Having failed to make even a plausible case of widespread fraud or conspiracy before any court of law, the President has now resorted to overt pressure on state and local officials to subvert the will of the people and overturn the election," Romney wrote. "It is difficult to imagine a worse, more undemocratic action by a sitting American President."
What is being done about this illegal act by a sitting president?
@Suzianne
Romney's the only Rep. Senator with any guts.
Murmurings of distress among a few other Rep. Senators are just barely becoming audible now. Any day now, the tune will change to "Ding, dong! the witch is dead, which old witch? the wicked witch, ding, dong! the wicked witch is dead."
20 Nov 20
@metal-brain saidToo funny.
Officials are investigating wonky election results in Antrim County in northern Michigan that could add a few thousand votes to the tallies for President Donald Trump and Republican Senate candidate John James.
https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/04/michigan-antrim-county-election-results-trump-biden-blue/6162541002/
Proper procedures are not ...[text shortened]... Nobody seems to want to report exactly what happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdiD77Jbm2Q
@moonbus saidYou have no idea that a recount in every state would result in votes going both ways. You are just guessing.
What's funny? Do you think it is suspicious? If every state conducted a recount, some might add votes to Biden's tally. The important finding in GA is that there was no fraud, no intent and no conspiracy to steal the election, as Trump has repeatedly claimed.
Of the 4998389 votes cast in GA, 1300 represents 0.026%, which is minuscule. That is well within tolerance for any ...[text shortened]... ibertarian, who polled 62,000 some odd votes. I do not know whether the recount changed that result.
The total changed. I have NEVER heard any news reports claiming there was no fraud. Are you claiming those changes were not the result of fraud? If so, what is your source of information?
21 Nov 20
@metal-brain saidThe Georgia hand audit uncovered no instances of fraud:
You have no idea that a recount in every state would result in votes going both ways. You are just guessing.
The total changed. I have NEVER heard any news reports claiming there was no fraud. Are you claiming those changes were not the result of fraud? If so, what is your source of information?
"Georgia has finished its statewide audit of the razor-thin presidential race, confirming that President-elect Joe Biden defeated President Donald Trump, according to a news release from the Secretary of State's office.
Biden beat Trump by 12,284 votes, according to the final results from the audit. This is a slight drop for Biden compared to the pre-audit results.
Officials have said repeatedly that the audit confirmed there was no widespread fraud or irregularities in the election.
""Georgia's historic first statewide audit reaffirmed that the state's new secure paper ballot voting system accurately counted and reported results," Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, a Republican, said in a statement.
"This is a credit to the hard work of our county and local elections officials who moved quickly to undertake and complete such a momentous task in a short period of time."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/politics/georgia-recount-election-results/index.html
21 Nov 20
@metal-brain said"Prior research indicates that the expected variance between hand and machine counts, assuming no issues beyond normal human error in the counting process, ranges anywhere from 1.0 - 1.5% across all ballot types.
You have no idea that a recount in every state would result in votes going both ways. You are just guessing.
The total changed. I have NEVER heard any news reports claiming there was no fraud. Are you claiming those changes were not the result of fraud? If so, what is your source of information?
Georgia shows a 0.1053% (0.001053) variation in statewide total vote count, and a 0.0099%
(0.000099) variation in the overall margin."
https://sos.ga.gov/admin/uploads/11.19_.20_Risk_Limiting_Audit_Report_Memo_1.pdf
So no evidence of fraud, just an error well within expected norms. The biggest difference was that a few Republican run counties messed up and didn't download some memory cards.
21 Nov 20
@metal-brain saidhttps://www.ajc.com/politics/recount-finds-thousands-of-georgia-votes-missing-from-initial-counts/ERDRNXPH3REQTM4SOINPSEP72M/
You have no idea that a recount in every state would result in votes going both ways. You are just guessing.
The total changed. I have NEVER heard any news reports claiming there was no fraud. Are you claiming those changes were not the result of fraud? If so, what is your source of information?
"When the manual count in Fayette exceeded the computer count by over 2,700 votes, it became clear that a memory card was missing.
The issue occurred at the Fayetteville library early voting location, where a memory card had been replaced because it was reaching capacity, Hicks said. Then on election night. workers loaded a memory card for each early voting location, forgetting the card that had been swapped out.
Still, Hicks acknowledged that election workers should have noticed discrepancies in vote totals before the recount began. State election data showed clear differences between ballots cast and votes recorded in Fayette and Floyd counties.
Election workers made similar mistakes in Walton and Douglas counties, where they realized they had missed memory cards on Tuesday and Wednesday, accounting for about 600 votes."
"In Floyd County, election workers missed counting about 2,600 ballots because they didn’t rescan them after replacing an optical scanner that had a problem, Sterling said. "
So where's the "fraud" you think the hand audit uncovered?
@metal-brain saidI'm not guessing. Two investigations, one federal investigation and one GA state investigation, both carried out by professionals, have analysed the vote and found no fraud. Links have been cited in previous posts, just read them.
You have no idea that a recount in every state would result in votes going both ways. You are just guessing.
The total changed. I have NEVER heard any news reports claiming there was no fraud. Are you claiming those changes were not the result of fraud? If so, what is your source of information?