Voting machines should be banned

@moonbus said
I personally do not have evidence, but two states do.

State of Michigan brings charges:


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/3rd-trump-ally-charged-with-vote-machine-tampering-as-michigan-2020-election-case-grows


State of George brings charges:


https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/13/politics/coffee-county-georgia-voting-system-breach-trump/index.html

If RHP ...[text shortened]... supports long URLS, then use a search engine on “Trump’s team seize voting machines.” Multiple hits.

Okay, but I don't think Trump knew them so I would not say they were on Trump's team.

@shavixmir said
I tend to agree.
Not that it’s rigged. They’re not.
And not because they are hackable. Some systems are.

But if a large part of the population doesn’t trust them (for whatever reason), don’t use them. Help people to feel safe.

However, mark my words on this one, if you ban voting machines, the paranoia the maga crowd has will spill over to whatever voting system you are using, especially if they lose.

The mechanism is not the problem on this issue.

Agreed. Republican’ts will claim any election they don’t win was rigged.

Republican’ts can’t win a fair national election, because they simply do not command a majority of the electorate. They can fairly win only local elections. The smart ones among them know this and privately acknowledge it.

The Democrats can win fair elections, but I’m not sure Biden in particular can. He’s unpopular and passed his shelf-life.

@Metal-Brain said
You are a European equivalent to a democrat. Your partisan bias against republicans is off the charts.

"When the story initially broke, many suspected the contents of the laptop, or even the device itself, were planted as a piece of disinformation in the closing days of the election. Then-candidate Biden even called the device a "Russian plant" during a presidential d ...[text shortened]... nce/

And you wonder why the MAGA crowd is paranoid. They have darn good reason to be, don't they?

I most certainly am not the European version of a bloody democrat.
I am not right-wing.

But yes. I have a bias against trump and his ilk. Because they’re fvcking moronic.

But no, I also have a bias against republicans, democrats and politicians in general.

And all that being said, nobody on this side of the pond gives a flying fvck about some dude’s laptop. What we do see is the salivating the right are doing over it… and that is just weird.

Really, really, really strange.

Don’t you people have sex lives?
Well. That was obviously rhetorical.

Don’t you people have porn to watch, a trailer to wash or some bloody animal to shoot?

@moonbus said
Agreed. Republican’ts will claim any election they don’t win was rigged.

Republican’ts can’t win a fair national election, because they simply do not command a majority of the electorate. They can fairly win only local elections. The smart ones among them know this and privately acknowledge it.

The Democrats can win fair elections, but I’m not sure Biden in particular can. He’s unpopular and passed his shelf-life.

The mere fact Biden has advisors he listens to, makes him a better option than trump.

@Metal-Brain said
All voting machines are good for is rigging elections.

https://greatgameindia.com/after-us-now-dominion-voting-systems-sparks-election-scandal-in-puerto-rico/

All voting machines are good for is rigging elections.


OMG - Another stupid conspiracy theory the MAGA crowd. Please tell us, are those Jewish space lasers going to start zapping the west coast and start more wildfires again? Are the Chinese going to drop rice paper ballots into the ballot boxes again? Is Mexico really going to pay for that border wall?

News flash Mr. Metalbrain: Donald Trump's own handpicked judges said there was no evidence to back up this nonsense of yours (in multiple lawsuits) So, please...find something else to lie about. This is getting old. 🙄

@Metal-Brain said
Okay, but I don't think Trump knew them so I would not say they were on Trump's team.

Trump didn’t know Sydney Powell ?? He hired her, for Pete’s sake. Yeah, like he didn’t know Stormy Daniel’s either.

@moonbus said
Trump didn’t know Sydney Powell ?? He hired her, for Pete’s sake. Yeah, like he didn’t know Stormy Daniel’s either.

Sydney Powell broke into a voting machine?

@shavixmir said
I most certainly am not the European version of a bloody democrat.
I am not right-wing.

But yes. I have a bias against trump and his ilk. Because they’re fvcking moronic.

But no, I also have a bias against republicans, democrats and politicians in general.

And all that being said, nobody on this side of the pond gives a flying fvck about some dude’s laptop. What w ...[text shortened]... hetorical.

Don’t you people have porn to watch, a trailer to wash or some bloody animal to shoot?

Biden is moronic. The only difference between Trump and Biden is the rhetoric. Their policies are nearly the same.

@shavixmir said
The mere fact Biden has advisors he listens to, makes him a better option than trump.

They both listened to Henry Kissinger. That is why their policies are no different, just their rhetoric.

@mchill said
All voting machines are good for is rigging elections.


OMG - Another stupid conspiracy theory the MAGA crowd. Please tell us, are those Jewish space lasers going to start zapping the west coast and start more wildfires again? Are the Chinese going to drop rice paper ballots into the ballot boxes again? Is Mexico really going to pay for that border wall?

News flash Mr ...[text shortened]... yours (in multiple lawsuits) So, please...find something else to lie about. This is getting old. 🙄

Are you accusing several European countries of believing a stupid conspiracy theory?

https://www.myheraldreview.com/news/business/the-cyber-guys-critical-vulnerabilities-in-voting-machines-easy-to-hack/article_382d49c8-cce4-11ee-9a9e-5324cc92e237.html

J. Alex Halderman, a computer science professor at the University of Michigan is stupid? If Albert Einstein was alive and said they were easily hacked you would call him stupid. Right? Anybody who disagrees with you is stupid, right?

At this point you might be thinking, OK, but how many computer science professors are going to hack a voting machine? Well, it turns out in August 2018 at a DEFCON hackathon conference, it took an 11-year-old boy 10 minutes to hack a simulated Florida state voting website and change the results of the election. Not just one child, but 30 of the 50 children in age ranging from 8 to 16 were able to hack the simulated election website.

These next voting machines that were hacked are no longer widely used for obvious reasons, but you have no idea how many hack-able voting machines are still out there.

https://www.businessinsider.com/voting-machine-being-hacked-at-defcon-video-2018-8?r=MX&IR=T

If you were told Russia hacked voting machines here in the USA would you call them stupid? If pre pubescent kids could do it what makes you think Russia couldn't?

@Metal-Brain said
Sydney Powell broke into a voting machine?

Of course not. Stop being idiotic, She was one of several of Trump’s team of lawyers who were given illegal access to voting machines, illegally removed them from a secure location, and later turned them over to IT specialists who hacked them ( breaking the seals on a voting machine is a felony). There is ample evidence of this and it is progressing through multiple court cases even now. Trump caused this chain of illegal activities to be set in motion and is an unindicted co-conspirator.

It’s basically the same as when a mafia boss says to his underlings ‘who will rid me of this turbulent priest!’ and his underlings hire a hit man to carry out a murder. The mafia boss didn’t pull the trigger, but he set the chain of events in motion and is therefore an accessory to murder, even if he does not know the hit man personally.

@moonbus said
Of course not. Stop being idiotic, She was one of several of Trump’s team of lawyers who were given illegal access to voting machines, illegally removed them from a secure location, and later turned them over to IT specialists who hacked them ( breaking the seals on a voting machine is a felony). There is ample evidence of this and it is progressing through multiple court ca ...[text shortened]... in motion and is therefore an accessory to murder, even if he does not know the hit man personally.

Then you are being idiotic. She didn't break into a voting machine.
Voting Machines are vulnerable to hacking. A 10 year old did it.

Tucker Carlson also correctly pointed that out. He was not fired from FOX for lying. He was let go with pay for telling the truth. Nobody punishes a person with a paid vacation.

@Metal-Brain said
Then you are being idiotic. She didn't break into a voting machine.
Voting Machines are vulnerable to hacking. A 10 year old did it.

Tucker Carlson also correctly pointed that out. He was not fired from FOX for lying. He was let go with pay for telling the truth. Nobody punishes a person with a paid vacation.

when is Tucker allowed to come back ? His contract said 2 years, I think...has it been that long yet. He was getting million to stay home and ride an ATV around his ranch...

@mlb62 said
when is Tucker allowed to come back ? His contract said 2 years, I think...has it been that long yet. He was getting million to stay home and ride an ATV around his ranch...

He is back on X.
FOX will never bring him back. He had Jimmy Dore on his show.

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