Debates
13 Jan 10
14 Jan 10
Originally posted by whodeyNo attention should be paid to your partisan rants. This isn't a Tea Party; go back to your asylum and start one.
I share your outrage that these institutions accepted money from the federal government, but now want complete automony from them. It just doesn't work like that. Its like doing business with the mob. Once you are in, you are in. There is no backing away. One thing about it though, tax payers will get their money back from the banks and then some, howeve ...[text shortened]... since Freddie and Fannie are part of the etitlement culture no attention will be payed to them.
15 Jan 10
Originally posted by MelanerpesMel and ATY
indeed.
a great deal of the wealth that now exists in the US and other "Western" nations can be traced back to the sweat from many a slave or serf.
this is property that was essentially stolen from these people - by use of some of the worst force imaginable.
so the Libertarian position should be advocating a proportionate return of property to the descendants of the people who were forced to toil so hard to produce it.
This is not a problem exclusive to libertarians, and if it's righting past wrongs we are talking about, there is half my working life (minus the services I have used) to be returned to me by the guvamint of NZ.
If someone does owe someone else, then the onus is on the person making the claim to supply proof, you know, innocent until proven guilty.
As a Libertarian I am much more concerned that this type of thing doesn't happen again, let's not get in this situation in the first place, and a world where you are the owner of yourself (i.e. your neighbour does not have a higher claim on you and your life) and that this is recognised is the first step.
Stolen property should not be passed from one person to the other, whether through inheritance or by any other means, stolen property should not be in anyones possession, so this is not about inheritance, it's not about stopping the money at that 'transfer'. If someone is in possession of stolen property now is the time to chase it down, don't wait for that moment in is transferred from the deceased to their chosen heir, even if that heir is their dog.
15 Jan 10
Originally posted by WajomaLike I said. If you can launder the money, too bad for your victims!
Mel and ATY
This is not a problem exclusive to libertarians, and if it's righting past wrongs we are talking about, there is half my working life (minus the services I have used) to be returned to me by the guvamint of NZ.
If someone does owe someone else, then the onus is on the person making the claim to supply proof, you know, innocent until proven ...[text shortened]... in is transferred from the deceased to their chosen heir, even if that heir is their dog.
15 Jan 10
Originally posted by AThousandYoungAdvantaged? In what way. Be specific.
It's so awfully convenient that you're a white male and you are in favor of just forgetting past injustices. It's so easy to say "let's forget the past" when you are in a group that is extremely advantaged due to past injustices.
15 Jan 10
Originally posted by WajomaPolice harass black people in the US anyway much more often and more harshly than whites. Whites have twice the chances of getting loans.
..and the thought that I might receive the proceeds from somebody elses dead parents utterly sickens me.
These things are well documented.
15 Jan 10
Originally posted by AThousandYoungYou're frothing, you're all over the show.
Police harass black people in the US anyway much more often and more harshly than whites. Whites have twice the chances of getting loans.
These things are well documented.
You're trying to intimate this is libertarianism?