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@shavixmir saidIt is a matter of degree. In all societies there is some kind of tug-of-war between the sexes. In some cases it is so mild that it is ignored and in others it is blatant, supported by society, condoned by the religion, and includes the killing of women who in the eyes of men, have disrespected themselves. This is the dangerous kind, and men who grow up in these dangerous cultures, and migrate to the 'mild' ones, tend to be social misfits.
Yes. In the US women are second rate citizens. These societies do exist.
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@moonbus saidSorry about that. My antivirus did say it is not a safe website [for women apparently .. 🙂 ], and asked if I still wanted to proceed. I said proceed. Nothing about paying. All you have to do is proceed, read it quickly and get out, without downloading or saving anything from that website. Anyway, I quoted a part of the text.
It looks to me like host countries have been seriously remiss about educating immigrants from certain regions (notably No. Africa and the ME) about gender equality and women's rights. Prosecuting people after the crime is rather late in the day. Pro-active education for immigrants would be my preferred solution.
PS The article to which you linked is behind a paywall.
There are many others that say the same thing. In the last 30 years, typically safe, low crime European cities have been turned in high crime zones, and the root cause in the clash between cultures. I have doubts that you can 'educate' a deep-rooted habit out of someone. So I wont blame the host country.
Also I happen to be living on an island frequented by European tourists, and because I own a restaurant/bar down here, I meet them all the time. These are not young people who do not know of life in Europe 30 years ago. These the older folks who have seen first hand the decline of their lifestyle over the years. I dont need a website to tell me whats going in Europe.
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@moonbus saidFor real ... makes you more interested in reading it. There are many like her that wrote of the horrors of growing up in these cultures. Quite of few of them were persecuted, even killed by men who were offended.
Have just now ordered Ali's book from amazon. Any book condemned by reviewers can't be all bad.
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@Rajk999 saidHave these people no manners?? Seems elementary to me. I guess it isn't to them.
Sorry about that. My antivirus did say it is not a safe website [for women apparently .. 🙂 ], and asked if I still wanted to proceed. I said proceed. Nothing about paying. All you have to do is proceed, read it quickly and get out, without downloading or saving anything from that website. Anyway, I quoted a part of the text.
There are many others that say the same t ...[text shortened]... decline of their lifestyle over the years. I dont need a website to tell me whats going in Europe.
Even in central Europe, there are still divided criteria of what constitutes rape: some places 'no means no' and other places 'yes means yes.'
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/business/from-coercion-to-no-means-no-switzerland-updates-its-definition-of-rape/49119364
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@moonbus saidSo it's THEIR fault they didn't tell them beating up 12 year old girls and gang-raping them was wrong?
It looks to me like host countries have been seriously remiss about educating immigrants from certain regions (notably No. Africa and the ME) about gender equality and women's rights. Prosecuting people after the crime is rather late in the day. Pro-active education for immigrants would be my preferred solution.
PS The article to which you linked is behind a paywall.
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@Cliff-Mashburn saidThere are countries in the world where child marriage is practised. Not surprisingly, many of these overlap with those where FGM is also practised. If someone from one of those countries immigrates to a country where these practises are outlawed, do you expect such an immigrant to know, by telepathy, what is lawful in the host country? Would you know what's allowed or not allowed if you were to go to Waziristan or Burkina Faso or Chad, if nobody from the host country told you?
So it's THEIR fault they didn't tell them beating up 12 year old girls and gang-raping them was wrong?
Countries where child marriage is practised:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1226532/countries-with-the-highest-child-marriage-rate/
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@moonbus saidBeating girls and young women senseless and having a dozen men pull a train on their semiconscious bodies has nothing to do with child marriage. Stop making excuses for their vile behavior.
There are countries in the world where child marriage is practised. Not surprisingly, many of these overlap with those where FGM is also practised. If someone from one of those countries immigrates to a country where these practises are outlawed, do you expect such an immigrant to know, by telepathy, what is lawful in the host country? Would you know what's allo ...[text shortened]... ised:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1226532/countries-with-the-highest-child-marriage-rate/
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@Cliff-Mashburn saidOh, look, another Russia-sponsored conservative rag.
"Regular blokes" gone berserk haahahahaha.
https://rmx.news/article/north-african-crime-rate-explodes-in-germany-rape-up-169-and-murder-up-110-in-4-years/
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@Cliff-Mashburn saidI can tell that you are oh, so moved by their stories, too.
Beating girls and young women senseless and having a dozen men pull a train on their semiconscious bodies has nothing to do with child marriage. Stop making excuses for their vile behavior.