12 Mar 11
Originally posted by rwingettYeah, yeah, yeah, But how much can ya bench ?
Business! Mankind was my business. The common welfare was my business; charity, mercy, forbearance, and benevolence, were, all, my business. The dealings of my trade were but a drop of water in the comprehensive ocean of my business!
GRANNY.
12 Mar 11
Originally posted by rwingettLMAO!!!! What the hell are you talking about?! You sound like you are the Messiah or something !?
Business! Mankind was my business. The common welfare was my business; charity, mercy, forbearance, and benevolence, were, all, my business. The dealings of my trade were but a drop of water in the comprehensive ocean of my business!
Anyone who has run a successful real business ( not theory you learned in a liberal university)knows you pay on experience,performance,not solely education levels.
12 Mar 11
Originally posted by utherpendragonIt's a quote from 'A Christmas Carol', where the ghost of Jacob Marley comes to warn Ebenezer Scrooge. You, in this instance, would be Scrooge. But even Scrooge found out that there was more to life than business.
LMAO!!!! What the hell are you talking about?! You sound like you are the Messiah or something !?
Anyone who has run a successful real business ( not theory you learned in a liberal university)knows you pay on experience,performance,not solely education levels.
12 Mar 11
Originally posted by rwingettI like this movie quote better.
It's a quote from 'A Christmas Carol', where the ghost of Jacob Marley comes to warn Ebenezer Scrooge. You, in this instance, would be Scrooge. But even Scrooge found out that there was more to life than business.
"It's not personal. It's business." Michael Corleone (The Godfather)
You got family,charity,etc. The Government in a free society should have nothing to do w/it!
People like you seem to think Government is the answer for all things but in the same breath turn around and talk about having "a life".
What type of "life" is it to be penalized and threatened w/the use of force to hand over most of your hard earned money to the next man because he was not as savvy as you?
12 Mar 11
Originally posted by uzlessThe crazy winged nut jobs are not in the habit of labeling and judging people based upon a degree they may or may not have attained. In fact, a fair amount of graduates from high school can't even read.
Basing this only on Education level, let's see you right wing nutjobs put down what you think an average fair market yearly salary in the private sector should be for the following groups of people:
highschool dropout
highschool graduate
community college graduate
univerisity graduate
doctoral Univeristy degree (PhD)
13 Mar 11
Originally posted by rwingettSo you do recognize that education deserves greater pay, but not much?
$1,000,000 highschool dropout
$1,100,000 highschool graduate
$1,200,000 community college graduate
$1,300,000 univerisity graduate
$1,400,000 doctoral Univeristy degree (PhD)
Should salary just be based on education, or should the amount of work actually done and difficulty of that work be taken into consideration? How does one judge difficulty?
13 Mar 11
Originally posted by twhiteheadThe economist, mathematician and physicist Jan Tinbergen (who won the first Nobel Prize for economics) addresses this question. He argued that a qualified person does not need to paid much more than an unqualified person because generally people with more talent also have to make less effort to accomplish a certain difficult task. Also, he claimed that if the income differences in a company exceed a 1:5 ratio it will be harmful for the productivity of the company (and he's probably right, although the 1:5 figure is somewhat arbitrary).
So you do recognize that education deserves greater pay, but not much?
Should salary just be based on education, or should the amount of work actually done and difficulty of that work be taken into consideration? How does one judge difficulty?
13 Mar 11
Originally posted by twhiteheadI do not support the idea that everyone should be paid 'exactly' the same amount. Neither do I support the obscene disparities in wealth that are now prevalent. I am in favor of a great compression toward the middle, whereby the poor are much better off, the rich are far less opulent, while still leaving room for 'incentive.'
So you do recognize that education deserves greater pay, but not much?
Should salary just be based on education, or should the amount of work actually done and difficulty of that work be taken into consideration? How does one judge difficulty?
The 'difficulty' of work is of absolutely no consideration now. The most back-breaking jobs are frequently the lowest paid. What is currently rewarded is not hard work, but the ability to manipulate the system to ones advantage.
13 Mar 11
Originally posted by rwingettOf course it's not the " 'difficulty' " of the work, nor is it people manipulating the system, it's our old friend - supply and demand - heard of it?
I do not support the idea that everyone should be paid 'exactly' the same amount. Neither do I support the obscene disparities in wealth that are now prevalent. I am in favor of a great compression toward the middle, whereby the poor are much better off, the rich are far less opulent, while still leaving room for 'incentive.'
The 'difficulty' of work is ...[text shortened]... tly rewarded is not hard work, but the ability to manipulate the system to ones advantage.
13 Mar 11
Originally posted by WajomaI'm sure there are millions of people who could have done a much better job at running Enron, Parmalat, etc. Where does "supply and demand" enter this picture?
Of course it's not the " 'difficulty' " of the work, nor is it people manipulating the system, it's our old friend - supply and demand - heard of it?
13 Mar 11
Originally posted by uzlessDepends on what the job is. It would be idiotic to say what the average yearly salary should be for someone based solely on educational level and not on what they're actually doing.
Basing this only on Education level, let's see you right wing nutjobs put down what you think an average fair market yearly salary in the private sector should be for the following groups of people:
highschool dropout
highschool graduate
community college graduate
univerisity graduate
doctoral Univeristy degree (PhD)
The private sector doesn't, and never has, based salaries solely on education levels. And an "average" would be absolutely meaningless anyway.
13 Mar 11
Originally posted by TheBloopSeconded. Moreover, the government doesn't base salary solely on education either.
Depends on what the job is. It would be idiotic to say what the average yearly salary should be for someone based solely on educational level and not on what they're actually doing.
The private sector doesn't, and never has, based salaries solely on education levels. And an "average" would be absolutely meaningless anyway.
This whole discussion is pretty ridiculous BTW.