Which Is Better, 9mm or .45 ?

Originally posted by mwmiller
Here's a cut and paste from an article that is a few years old now. This guy didn't have a high-capacity magazine or even use a handgun, but it sounds like he would have liked to have had a few more rounds....

"Rochester Man Survives Charge by Grizzly

Posted by admin | Filed under Hunting

By Tony Pannkuk
For The Chronicle

For one Rochester man ...[text shortened]... incident could be released until the case is adjudicated.

Comments (0) | January 20th, 2011 "

He killed a grizzly with three shots. That somehow proves that mags with more than 10 bullets are essential for hunting?🙄

Originally posted by no1marauder
He killed a grizzly with three shots. That somehow proves that mags with more than 10 bullets are essential for hunting?🙄

No, it just proves he was very lucky.

I'm sure if you were to ask this hunter, he would have liked to have a few more rounds in that rifle when he first saw the bear.

Originally posted by mwmiller
No, it just proves he was very lucky.

I'm sure if you were to ask this hunter, he would have liked to have a few more rounds in that rifle when he first saw the bear.

Sure and he would liked to have been in an Abrams tank as well.

Originally posted by no1marauder
Sure and he would liked to have been in an Abrams tank as well.

Wow, what a dim-whit you are. I have better things to do with my time.... bye, bye.

Originally posted by FishHead111
Uhhh.....no.
Just....no.
It's obvious you have never hunted or studied/read anything about hunting large dangerous game animals, or of people that have been attacked by a Grizzly Bear because they surprised one in the wilderness.

You think you could put ten high powered rifle bullets into a grizzly which has surprised you and is charging before it mauled you?

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
You think you could put ten high powered rifle bullets into a grizzly which has surprised you and is charging before it mauled you?

It has been done before, not by one person to my knowledge,but by 2 or more hunters that came across one and had to blast away until it went down.
Why does this sound odd to you?
For that matter, there is one hunting/survival story I read about where a polar bear was taken with a single shot from a .22 LR, in which the bullet went through the eye and into it's brain.
But I wasn't there so I couldn't swear to it.

Originally posted by FishHead111
It has been done before, not by one person to my knowledge,but by 2 or more hunters that came across one and had to blast away until it went down.
Why does this sound odd to you?
For that matter, there is one hunting/survival story I read about where a polar bear was taken with a single shot from a .22 LR, in which the bullet went through the eye and into it's brain.
But I wasn't there so I couldn't swear to it.

Bears run like thirty miles an hour. Unless you're toting an M60 I there's no time for ten bullets.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
You think you could put ten high powered rifle bullets into a grizzly which has surprised you and is charging before it mauled you?

that would depend on the rifle, and the initial distance when the bear charged of course.. any of you even seen a grizzly anywhere but in a Zoo?

US Army paratrooper once told us in this forum, he could empty his .223 clip into a charging bear, to which I replied, maybe..but that round is probably too light to kill the bear. And the bear is not running across a football field, but around trees,coming fast with a lot of jerky movements. I think most rookies would piss in their pants, without getting a shot off.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Bears run like thirty miles an hour. Unless you're toting an M60 I there's no time for ten bullets.

That 30 MPH could slow to a crawl, if the first shot broke the shoulder,, which is hard to do.

Originally posted by FishHead111
It has been done before, not by one person to my knowledge,but by 2 or more hunters that came across one and had to blast away until it went down.
Why does this sound odd to you?
For that matter, there is one hunting/survival story I read about where a polar bear was taken with a single shot from a .22 LR, in which the bullet went through the eye and into it's brain.
But I wasn't there so I couldn't swear to it.

Anything is possible, but I rather doubt that one.

Originally posted by Hugh Glass
that would depend on the rifle, and the initial distance when the bear charged of course.. any of you even seen a grizzly anywhere but in a Zoo?

US Army paratrooper once told us in this forum, he could empty his .223 clip into a charging bear, to which I replied, maybe..but that round is probably too light to kill the bear. And the bear is not running ...[text shortened]... of jerky movements. I think most rookies would piss in their pants, without getting a shot off.

A fully automatic small calibur assault rifle (his M4) is much different than a typical .30 cal high powered full length hunting rifle. I doubt USAP could land 10 shots from an M1 Garand or semi auto M14.

Originally posted by Hugh Glass
that would depend on the rifle, and the initial distance when the bear charged of course.. any of you even seen a grizzly anywhere but in a Zoo?

US Army paratrooper once told us in this forum, he could empty his .223 clip into a charging bear, to which I replied, maybe..but that round is probably too light to kill the bear. And the bear is not running ...[text shortened]... of jerky movements. I think most rookies would piss in their pants, without getting a shot off.

ya I've seen wild grizzlies in Alaska they are usually out in the open. I like the blonde grizzlies they look like surfer bears.

Originally posted by Hugh Glass
That 30 MPH could slow to a crawl, if the first shot broke the shoulder,, which is hard to do.

So...just in case a hunter is ambushed by a charging grizzly and gets a lucky shot, hitting it in the shoulder, shattering bone and slowing the charging behemoth to a crawl, pumps another half dozen rifle rounds into it at short range...

The bear still might kill him before he swaps magazines so he needs high capacity mags?

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Bears run like thirty miles an hour. Unless you're toting an M60 I there's no time for ten bullets.

There are people who can fire, reload (assuming a bolt-action), and fire accurately again in less than a second. So assuming that the bear is starting from one hundred yards away I think that it is entirely plausible that someone could get ten shots in.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Too much recoil...you're supposed to shoot twice in the chest and once in the head in rapid succession.

Presumes dealing with a single assailant.