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Imagine my surprise when I discovered that Karl Popper stole all my beliefs and ideas about how the world works! Not a pleasant thing for a fifty-something to discover.

Then I found out that he is older than me. Ahem. Very disconcerting.

So I did the only decent thing. I joined his religion. I am a Karl Popperite.

Which church do you go to for your "balm"? And why?

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Originally posted by StarValleyWy
Then I found out that he is older than me. Ahem. Very disconcerting.
Popper is dead, but a distorted simplification of his views are pushed by the Creationists, making him more important today than he was in his lifetime.

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
Popper is dead, but a distorted simplification of his views are pushed by the Creationists, making him more important today than he was in his lifetime.
Well of course he's dead. You don't think I would worship and join the church of a live man, do you? Sheesh! What do you think I am? Veneration and sainthood require time. In all religions.πŸ˜•

As to the "distorted simplification" thingy.. Sigh. I know. It happens to me too. Hard to gain a lot of intellectual currency spoutin' on about chimpness, what.

What do we Karl Popperites believe?

In being exceptional. <grin>

All the evidence in the world (indeed the universe) can't hold up against a single provable exception.

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Originally posted by StarValleyWy
Well of course he's dead. You don't think I would worship and join the church of a live man, do you? Sheesh! What do you think I am? Veneration and sainthood require time. In all religions.πŸ˜•

As to the "distorted simplification" thingy.. Sigh. I know. It happens to me too. Hard to gain a lot of intellectual currency spoutin' on about chimpness, ...[text shortened]... vidence in the world (indeed the universe) can't hold up against a single provable exception.
I see the stars coming out.

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Originally posted by Wulebgr
I see the stars coming out.
But what do you do about the Popperozzi?πŸ™‚

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Originally posted by StarValleyWy
Imagine my surprise when I discovered that Karl Popper stole all my beliefs and ideas about how the world works! Not a pleasant thing for a fifty-something to discover.

Then I found out that he is older than me. Ahem. Very disconcerting.

So I did the only decent thing. I joined his religion. I am a Karl Popperite.

Which church do you go to for your "balm"? And why?
Doe this mean that you'll no longer be worshipping at the "Church of the Illuminated Iguana"? I suppose you'll now be worshipping "Mr. Popper's Penguins."(I read a very entertaining and educational book about 15 years ago that was based on an incident between Karl Popper and another famous philosopher in which the other philosopher supposedly threatened Popper with a walking stick during a famous debate. Unfortunately I can't remember the name of the other philosopher or the name of the book.)

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Originally posted by StarValleyWy
Imagine my surprise when I discovered that Karl Popper stole all my beliefs and ideas about how the world works! Not a pleasant thing for a fifty-something to discover.

Then I found out that he is older than me. Ahem. Very disconcerting.

So I did the only decent thing. I joined his religion. I am a Karl Popperite.

Which church do you go to for your "balm"? And why?
Well at least you started me down the path of reading about
Popper, and its clear you don't have a popper upbringingπŸ™‚
I am now intensely studying the word "Verisimilitude", appearing
to be true.
I think it correct that you are enamoured with the social aspect of
Popper and not his connection to scientific theory building. I had
of course, heard of the idea of falsifiability in terms of science but
didn't know where it came from, which was Popper. I am just learning
about the scientific part. I guess you know he started out as a
socialist and Marxist. Then rejected it because it had untestable
tenets.

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Wittgenstein's Poker: The Story of a Ten-Minute Argument Between Two Great Philosophers
by David Edmonds, John Eidinow

From Publishers Weekly-
In October 1946, philosopher Karl Popper arrived at Cambridge to lecture at a seminar hosted by his legendary colleague Ludwig Wittgenstein. It did not go well: the men began arguing, and eventually, Wittgenstein began waving a fire poker toward Popper. It lasted scarcely 10 minutes, yet the debate has turned into perhaps modern philosophy's most contentious encounter, largely because none of the eyewitnesses could agree on what happened. Did Wittgenstein physically threaten Popper with the poker? Did Popper lie about it afterward? BBC journalists Edmonds and Eidinow use the controversy as a springboard to probe the whys and whats of these two great thinkers, weaving biography, journalism and philosophy to produce one of the year's most entertaining and intellectually rich books. The authors show that the debate was a clash at several levels. First, of personalities: each was "bullying, aggressive, intolerant and self-absorbed"; in other words, accustomed to winning and unlikely to back down. Second, of class: Wittgenstein was an Austrian aristocrat, Popper was bourgeoisie (each fled Vienna to escape Hitler). And third, of ideas: Wittgenstein believed that philosophy boiled down to nothing more than a series of linguistic puzzles, while Popper thought philosophy involved real problems that immediately affected the world at large. Clearly, the stakes were high for both men in that lecture hall especially because their common mentor, the aging icon Bertrand Russell, was also in attendance. The debate thus took on the character of a succession for the throne. Tightly constructed and extraordinarily well written, this is a marvelous blend of lay and academic scholarship. It has every chance of becoming a classic of its kind. (Nov.)Forecast: Smart, general readers will gobble up this latest addition to narrative nonfiction. It will surely find a place for itself among The Professor and the Madman and An Eternal Golden Braid.

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Originally posted by sonhouse
I guess you know he started out as a
socialist and Marxist. Then rejected it because it had untestable
tenets.
I didn't "start out" as a commie, but I flirted with it for a year or so back in 1976-77. I was pretty much into the original "save the earth" movement. But socialism and especially Marxism can't stand the tests that laziness impose upon it. What one is left with are do-nothings killing for the sake of "equality and class", everywhere pullulation of communism is allowed -- except for the classroom.

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Originally posted by Delmer
Wittgenstein's Poker: The Story of a Ten-Minute Argument Between Two Great Philosophers
by David Edmonds, John Eidinow

From Publishers Weekly-
In October 1946, philosopher Karl Popper arrived at Cambridge to lecture at a seminar hosted by his legendary colleague Ludwig Wittgenstein. It did not go well: the men began arguing, and eventually, Wittgenstei ...[text shortened]... l surely find a place for itself among The Professor and the Madman and An Eternal Golden Braid.
Hey Del,

Thanks for the reference. That looks interesting. I'll have my wife see if it's in the system. Kind of nice having my own personal librarian.
<svw slinks off, hoping she doesn't notice this post, pulling at his doggie collar while glancing over his shoulder>

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Originally posted by StarValleyWy
Hey Del,

Thanks for the reference. That looks interesting. I'll have my wife see if it's in the system. Kind of nice having my own personal librarian.
<svw slinks off, hoping she doesn't notice this post, pulling at his doggie collar while glancing over his shoulder>
My pleasure, SVW. AT one time my wife and I were both librarians, then I drifted off into the writing business.

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Originally posted by Delmer
My pleasure, SVW. AT one time my wife and I were both librarians, then I drifted off into the writing business.
"Libertarian librarians liberate literature literally and liberally"πŸ˜‰

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Originally posted by StarValleyWy
"Libertarian librarians liberate literature literally and liberally"πŸ˜‰
LOL!

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Originally posted by Delmer
My pleasure, SVW. AT one time my wife and I were both librarians, then I drifted off into the writing business.
Hi Del, I saw your piece about Tina and the horses.
Just out of curiosity, is it a particular type of writing where you
double space sentences like that, would it come out in print like that
or does it compress when you make a paper copy?
BTW my brothers name is Del and his kid is Del Jr.!

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Originally posted by sonhouse
Hi Del, I saw your piece about Tina and the horses.
Just out of curiosity, is it a particular type of writing where you
double space sentences like that, would it come out in print like that
or does it compress when you make a paper copy?
BTW my brothers name is Del and his kid is Del Jr.!
I'm interested in knowing if either Del is a Delmer. I had nothing to do with setting up the newspaper's web page but the newspaper itself is single spaced. I don't remember the point size of the type we use but it's a bit larger than normal for a newspaper because we have so many older readers. When I type in my office the lines are double spaced on the computer screen and the type appears at 2x size as I recall just because it's much easier to read on a screen. When a story is formatted for printing by the editor it automatically reduces to newspaper size and spacing.

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