06 Oct 20
@mott-the-hoople said(Shrug) The polls were pretty good in predicting Whitmer's victory in 2018. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/governor/mi/michigan_governor_schuette_vs_whitmer-6441.html
a smart man learns from his mistakes...still leaning on polls I see
@no1marauder saidif polls were reliable folks would be getting rich from oddshark.
(Shrug) The polls were pretty good in predicting Whitmer's victory in 2018. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/governor/mi/michigan_governor_schuette_vs_whitmer-6441.html
07 Oct 20
@mott-the-hoople saidI’m not arguing for either I’m simply saying that the Gov was acting on a statute that later got designated as unconstitutional so she wasn’t acting unconstitutionally when she did it. Clearly your constitution is open to different interpretations by different people at different times.
the legislature shouldnt have any power ? you do know that is the peoples representatives? do you think the gov should have absolute power?
07 Oct 20
@kevcvs57 saidmany states have outdated laws on the books that need updated. whitmer went looking for any way to dictate to her subjects.
I’m not arguing for either I’m simply saying that the Gov was acting on a statute that later got designated as unconstitutional so she wasn’t acting unconstitutionally when she did it. Clearly your constitution is open to different interpretations by different people at different times.
Its ironic you liberals call Trump a dictator and defend when one of yours actually does it.
@mott-the-hoople saidDon't be ridiculous; governors make emergency declarations all the time.
many states have outdated laws on the books that need updated. whitmer went looking for any way to dictate to her subjects.
Its ironic you liberals call Trump a dictator and defend when one of yours actually does it.
And virtually every Governor did so during the COVID crisis, with the vast majority still being in effect.https://www.nga.org/state-covid-19-emergency-orders/
07 Oct 20
@no1marauder saidyes they do, mine did, legally of course. with whitmer there lies the difference.
Don't be ridiculous; governors make emergency declarations all the time.
And virtually every Governor did so during the COVID crisis, with the vast majority still being in effect.https://www.nga.org/state-covid-19-emergency-orders/
07 Oct 20
@mott-the-hoople saidWhitmer followed the law as written; she had no idea a group of partisan judges would invalidate a 75 year old law for political reasons.
yes they do, mine did, legally of course. with whitmer there lies the difference.
07 Oct 20
@no1marauder saidare you stating the 1945 law was constitutional?
Whitmer followed the law as written; she had no idea a group of partisan judges would invalidate a 75 year old law for political reasons.
07 Oct 20
@mott-the-hoople saidA law is "Constitutional" and binds government officials until a court finds to the contrary or at the very least stays its execution. So Governor Whitman had a legitimate power to proceed under the 1945 Act.
are you stating the 1945 law was constitutional?
As to the merits, the majority's case is poorly reasoned and has little precedent to support it. So, yes, the statute should have been found to be an acceptable delegation of power similar to many other States' laws concerning emergency situations.
07 Oct 20
@no1marauder saidan unconstitutional law could never have been constitutional. your statement is absurd.
A law is "Constitutional" and binds government officials until a court finds to the contrary or at the very least stays its execution. So Governor Whitman had a legitimate power to proceed under the 1945 Act.
As to the merits, the majority's case is poorly reasoned and has little precedent to support it. So, yes, the statute should have been found to be an acceptable delegation of power similar to many other States' laws concerning emergency situations.
08 Oct 20
@mott-the-hoople saidSomeone needs to take a remedial class on how government works.
an unconstitutional law could never have been constitutional. your statement is absurd.
09 Oct 20
@mott-the-hoople saidLaws are valid until challenged for unconstitutionality. Then the court decides. They are assumed to be constitutional until then.
well then, since you opened your mouth, explain how an unconstitutional law could have once been constitutional?
@mott-the-hoople saidExplain Prohibition. Explain slavery. Explain why Trump won't serve as many terms as FDR. Times change. Laws change. The constitution changes.interpretations of the law and the constitution change.
well then, since you opened your mouth, explain how an unconstitutional law could have once been constitutional?