Originally posted by generalissimoIf you ask me, it is good for conservatives. In fact, we have been duped for far too long to think that the Republican party was really ever "leading" them. Now its time to put the target on the entire rotten system and open fire!!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7922236.stm
From behind his desk in the Oval Office, Barack Obama can usually rely on the members of his party to follow his lead.
But the divided nature of the American political system means that the party that does not hold the White House does not have a single figure it can look to for leadership. ...[text shortened]... esulting debate about the future direction of the party has been vigorous, verging on rancorous.
On the Limbaugh debate..I found this..and it checks with LA Times, Ehrenstein.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200703200012
On his March 19 broadcast host Rush Limbaugh highlighted a March 19 Los Angeles Times op-ed, written by cultural critic David Ehrenstein, headlined "Obama the 'Magic Negro."
Ehrenstein concluded: "Like a comic-book superhero, Obama is there to help, out of the sheer goodness of a heart we need not know or understand. For as with all Magic Negroes, the less real he seems, the more desirable he becomes. If he were real, white America couldn't project all its fantasies of curative black benevolence on him."
Limbaugh criticized the op-ed as racist, claiming, "It's the left saying all these things."
Limbaugh said, “The term "Magic Negro" has been thrown into the political presidential race for 2008 applied to Barack Obama, by an L.A. Times columnist, David Ehrenstein. What do you think? If I keep referring to Obama as the "Magic Negro" from this day on, I will eventually get the credit and/or heat for this."
“At the L.A. Times this is the not the first of these types of columns. The L.A. Times has done two or three columns like this, "is Barack Obama black enough?" and so forth. So there's a racist component out there on the editorial page of the L.A. Times that's obsessed with the race of Barack Obama, while they are obsessed with race, they are creating a base to accuse everybody else of being racist.”
Originally posted by MacSwainJust hope that villians remain out there to attack. We all need them or we will end up turning on ourselves which means Obama and company in your case. I just wonder if Rush and company are big and bad enough to avoid this inevitability. Then again, as "big" as he is, maybe so. LOL.
On the Limbaugh debate..I found this..and it checks with LA Times, Ehrenstein.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200703200012
On his March 19 broadcast host Rush Limbaugh highlighted a [b]March 19 Los Angeles Times op-ed, written by cultural critic David Ehrenstein, headlined "Obama the 'Magic Negro."
Ehrenstein concluded: [i]"Like a comic-book sup with race, they are creating a base to accuse everybody else of being racist.”[/b]
Originally posted by Melanerpeswas O'Reilly the de facto leader of the GOP before limbaugh?
well...it's not like Michael Steele has a legion of followers right now
the main problem for the Republicans is that they've been they've branded themselves as the "No" party --- whatever it is that those "liberals" want, the Republicans are against it. They don't have a lot of ideas beyond - "you've got a problem, we've got a bunch of tax cuts!!" -- e ...[text shortened]... ative sets of ideas.
But until this happens, Rush is the de facto leader...
Originally posted by generalissimoLimbaugh's been around for a long time
was O'Reilly the de facto leader of the GOP before limbaugh?
Limbaugh's national radio show began in 1988
at that time, I think everyone would agree that Reagan was the leader of the GOP.
Since then, there's also been Newt Gingrinch -- who actually produced a lot of ideas -- most of them were bad ideas, but some of them made sense. The idea of having a Contract with America - i.e. a whole LIST of actual proposals - was excellent. But neither party has tried this approach since 1994.
After that...there's been Bush & Cheney....and every once in awhile McCain finds his inner maverick and attempts to lead...but then he wimps out and goes back to conforming to party orthodoxy.
Actually, this should be McCain's moment -- be the one prominent Republican to tell Rush he's full of it - and NOT become a puddle of apologies the next day when Rush criticizes him.
Originally posted by MelanerpesThe point of my question was to show that he's just the guy on the radio, crowning him the leader of the GOP simply because some people listen to him is an exaggeration.
Limbaugh's been around for a long time
Limbaugh's national radio show began in 1988
at that time, I think everyone would agree that Reagan was the leader of the GOP.
Since then, there's also been Newt Gingrinch -- who actually produced a lot of ideas -- most of them were bad ideas, but some of them made sense. The idea of having a Contract with Ame ...[text shortened]... s full of it - and NOT become a puddle of apologies the next day when Rush criticizes him.
I don't think it would be beneficial for republicans to embrace Limbaugh either, after all, its looks as if he prefers ideology before country.