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And to answer your other question, the "Danish cartoon controversy" was a trivial matter unlike the question of whether the US and other countries are going to start a war causing hundreds of thousands of deaths. Since anyone who reads my posts here at all knows I favor virtually unlimited free speech rights. I wouldn't favor any government censorship of such materials in a newspaper. It was nice to see a bunch of right wingers actually favoring free speech for a change.
02 Apr 06
Originally posted by Rajk999I have no reason to suppose that your uninformed opinion about a hypothethical situation has any validity. And if "All nations have the right to take whatever action it deems fit (preemptive and otherwise) to protect itself" then you really don't have any bitch if Iran says to the West "Take your law and your incompetent UN a**holes and shove it."
Youre an F'ing DUNCE if you seriously believe that Saddam would not have used his nukes on Israel in 1991. Who cares about International Law or the UN. All nations have the right to take whatever action it deems fit (preemptive and otherwise) to protect itself. Take your law and your incompetent UN a**holes and shove it.
02 Apr 06
Originally posted by no1marauderNo I do not. If they think having nukes is for their protection and self defense thats fine. There is no law that can deny a person or nation the right to defend themselves. Israel took preenptive action because it is a well known fact (which you may deny) that most of the Islamic states would like to see the destruction of Israel. Iran can ignore the UN and proceed but then Israel may take the same action as it did against Iraq.
I have no reason to suppose that your uninformed opinion about a hypothethical situation has any validity. And if "All nations have the right to take whatever action it deems fit (preemptive and otherwise) to protect itself" then you really don't have any bitch if Iran says to the West "Take your law and your incompetent UN a**holes and shove it."
02 Apr 06
Originally posted by Rajk999You are incorrect again. There are plenty of laws that deny a person the right to defend himself whenever and however he deems it fit. And there are plenty of international laws that deny the same purported "right" by nations. They're called "Crimes against Peace" and some Germans, including Foreign Minister Von Ribbentrop, wound up at the end of a rope in 1946 for committing them.
No I do not. If they think having nukes is for their protection and self defense thats fine. There is no law that can deny a person or nation the right to defend themselves. Israel took preenptive action because it is a well known fact (which you may deny) that most of the Islamic states would like to see the destruction of Israel. Iran can ignore the UN and proceed but then Israel may take the same action as it did against Iraq.
02 Apr 06
Originally posted by Rajk999No thats not 'my' problem. (my country doesn't want your dirty money, though we're happen to pick and choose from your diverse cultural offerings ..thats a different story though).
And thats your big problem? The US furthers its business interests by supporting friendly governments ? How the hell is that a double standard. Thats pretty consistent to me. They further their interests by assisting FRIENDS and ALLIES. All countries do that. Thats not a problem with their foreign policy. You consider that a problem because you (or nations y ...[text shortened]... organisations and the criminal elements of the world .. Hezbollah, Al Queda, Hamas etc etc .
The Worlds problem is America's history of invading smaller, weaker countries. By my count at least 50 since WWII
What happened in your past that has made you such a greedy, cowardly bully? Did Canada steal all your toys when you playing in the sand pit?
02 Apr 06
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Originally posted by Rajk999A Typical Right Wing approach. The reasoning/debate gets a little too challenging, so you go all pre-enlightnement on us and resort to chest beating aggression.
Youre an F'ing DUNCE if you seriously believe that Saddam would not have used his nukes on Israel in 1991. Who cares about International Law or the UN. All nations have the right to take whatever action it deems fit (preemptive and otherwise) to protect itself. Take your law and your incompetent UN a**holes and shove it.
Aren't chess playes supposed to be smarter than that?
02 Apr 06
Originally posted by no1marauderI can read a history book and I can also read a map. In 56 that ahole Nasser a man you probably admired closed the Suez canal. I believe England and France were involved with that war also. In 67 the Arabs massed troops around Israel and in preparation of an attack on Israel. Israeli Generals (being much smarter than the Arab Generals) attacked first thus provoking whiny Arabs to cry to the UN and garner sympathy from idiots like you. What should Israel have done. Let the Arabs attack first and hope the UN😵😵😵🙄 come to its rescue. The Iraelis hit first thus insuring victory and if you had any tactical sense you would figure it out. In 73 the Arabs (who still hadn't learned) attacked Israel and got their asses handed to them. In 82 Israel attacked Lebanon who at the time had the PLO and Syrian troops constantly crossing the border and attacking Israeli settlements and killing their people. What should Israel do? Wait on the UN?😵😵😵🙄 Israel then pulled back thus allowing the UN🙄 mostly US and French troops to act as a buffer. The Arabs in their infinite wisdom instead of being grateful that the UN had gotten the Israeli soldiers off their behinds proceded to kill over 300 Marines in a show of gratitude. I guess in your pollyanna world Israel should ask Mother may I before they protect themselves.
If you truly believe that, then you need to read an actual history book. Only in the Yon Kippur war of 1973 did the Arab nations fire the first shot and that was to regain territory seized by Israel in 1967 (by a very successful sneak attack).
02 Apr 06
Originally posted by Red Leon😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴😴
No thats not 'my' problem. (my country doesn't want your dirty money, though we're happen to pick and choose from your diverse cultural offerings ..thats a different story though).
The Worlds problem is America's history of invading smaller, weaker countries. By my count at least 50 since WWII
What happened in your past that has made you such a greedy, cowardly bully? Did Canada steal all your toys when you playing in the sand pit?
02 Apr 06
Originally posted by slimjimYour statements are all propaganda you've been fed that you uncritically accept hook, line and sinker. The fact remains that Israel attacked first in all cases but 1973. The 1967 excuse is the biggest load; the Egyptians were totally unprepared for war which is one of the reasons they were completely defeated in less than 3 days. Your original statement was untrue and now you resort to distortions and BS.
I can read a history book and I can also read a map. In 56 that ahole Nasser a man you probably admired closed the Suez canal. I believe England and France were involved with that war also. In 67 the Arabs massed troops around Israel and in preparation of an attack on Israel. Israeli Generals (being much smarter than the Arab Generals) attacked first thus pr ...[text shortened]... I guess in your pollyanna world Israel should ask Mother may I before they protect themselves.
02 Apr 06
Originally posted by no1marauderIt's you who have been fed BS hook line sinker and the toilet. Egypt is the only smart one. They finally got tired of their asses gettting kicked and figured it's better to live in peace with Israel. Thats probably why they got the Sanai back.
Your statements are all propaganda you've been fed that you uncritically accept hook, line and sinker. The fact remains that Israel attacked first in all cases but 1973. The 1967 excuse is the biggest load; the Egyptians were totally unprepared for war which is one of the reasons they were completely defeated in less than 3 days. Your original statement was untrue and now you resort to distortions and BS.
02 Apr 06
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Originally posted by slimjimYour love affair with Israel is most touching; tell it to the wives and children of the 34 American sailors and marines murdered by the Israelis on the USS Liberty during their glorious "defensive" war in 1967. Guess the Israelis "kicked the Liberty's ass", too.
It's you who have been fed BS hook line sinker and the toilet. Egypt is the only smart one. They finally got tired of their asses gettting kicked and figured it's better to live in peace with Israel. Thats probably why they got the Sanai back.
02 Apr 06
Originally posted by no1marauderRibbentrop was one of Hitlers stooges. What claim does he have for self-defence ?
You are incorrect again. There are plenty of laws that deny a person the right to defend himself whenever and however he deems it fit. And there are plenty of international laws that deny the same purported "right" by nations. They're called "Crimes against Peace" and some Germans, including Foreign Minister Von Ribbentrop, wound up at the end of a rope in 1946 for committing them.
02 Apr 06
Originally posted by Red LeonI see that you are unable to respond to the question of "Who or what organisations do the Islamic States support ". Islamic states foreign policy is all about supporting terrorists.
No thats not 'my' problem. (my country doesn't want your dirty money, though we're happen to pick and choose from your diverse cultural offerings ..thats a different story though).
The Worlds problem is America's history of invading smaller, weaker countries. By my count at least 50 since WWII
What happened in your past that has made you such a greedy, cowardly bully? Did Canada steal all your toys when you playing in the sand pit?
02 Apr 06
Originally posted by no1marauderYour love affair with the damn Arabs is really touching also. Why don't you tell it to the wives and children of the 300 Marines killed in Lebanon in 83. Guess Hamas kicked the "Marines" ass also right?
Your love affair with Israel is most touching; tell it to the wives and children of the 34 American sailors and marines murdered by the Israelis on the USS Liberty during their glorious "defensive" war in 1967. Guess the Israelis "kicked the Liberty's ass", too.
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Originally posted by slimjimBig difference; those Marines were in another country that was a war zone; you might as well bitch about the Germans killing guys on D-Day. The USS Liberty was in international waters and was a neutral (actually almost a "friendly"😉.
Your love affair with the damn Arabs is really touching also. Why don't you tell it to the wives and children of the 300 Marines killed in Lebanon in 83. Guess Hamas kicked the "Marines" ass also right?