@AverageJoe1
Communism could even by benign if it was run by totally unbiased robots more intelligent than humans programmed to want to take care of their human pets, but as it is now poop rises to the top as it appears in all communist societies.
Communism seems to breed real thugs rising to the top where THEY get all the benefits of being on top and staying there, nice yachts and mansions while the common folk get screwed with limited ability to own stuff they can call their own like their own homes and such.
Right now the 'best' commie country seems to be Viet Nam, but like all of them you bitch about the government or the way the top level folks get all the perks, you find yourself in jail or worse.
@mchill
I guess there are levels of the idea of communism. At the extreme nobody owns anything, the state owns everything including the clothes you wear, your home and cars and of course ALL the businesses and forced induction into the military with top down leadership like Putin does in his military which has huge weaknesses not allowing lower ranks to make battlefield decisions.
@sonhouse saidThankyou, Sonhouse.
@mchill
I guess there are levels of the idea of communism. At the extreme nobody owns anything, the state owns everything including the clothes you wear, your home and cars and of course ALL the businesses and forced induction into the military with top down leadership like Putin does in his military which has huge weaknesses not allowing lower ranks to make battlefield decisions.
Is this the 'sweeping' that McHill is referring to?
It really is frowned upon, so why do some seem to promote, some maybe right on this forum. I am being sincere. Nothing humorous about it.
@AverageJoe1
I think 'sweeping' meant the idea communism is automatically 100% bad but the real deal is how the leaders set things up. Like in China it is not a pure commie country, you can own basically what you want and such but talk stink about the government and they are on you as fast as any other commie country like Russia.
Like I said, if communism was run by folks who worked for the good of the people as opposed to considering citizens as cattle to do with as they please, it could be a decent government system but it never works that way, the leaders become despots and dictators and kills anyone deemed a critic.
@sonhouse saidIt is a given that the communist leaders live a ‘full’ life. The citizens are chattel.So, the question, other than those who live on the communist hill, why would someone want to suggest the life of being chattel, fed by a government ,with no life?
@AverageJoe1
I think 'sweeping' meant the idea communism is automatically 100% bad but the real deal is how the leaders set things up. Like in China it is not a pure commie country, you can own basically what you want and such but talk stink about the government and they are on you as fast as any other commie country like Russia.
Like I said, if communism was run by folks ...[text shortened]... it never works that way, the leaders become despots and dictators and kills anyone deemed a critic.
I don’t get it, and some who are for communism seem to be on this Forum.
@AverageJoe1
Metal Brain is a card carrying commie, he has explicitly said so several times. Total anti-democracy.
@sonhouse saidYes, I knew, but what is his end game, not just for him, which is curious in itself, but to wish it for other people who might have some self esteem, some self dignity, to make something of themselves. To live freely.
@AverageJoe1
Metal Brain is a card carrying commie, he has explicitly said so several times. Total anti-democracy.
@AverageJoe1
I guess he is doing a tilting at windmills kind of thing, something that will never happen here, turning the US into a communist realm so he devotes his life to an unachievable goal.
@AverageJoe1 saidYou have never once defined it correctly.
For me, I think absolutely everything about it is 100%b bad.
What say you?
So, like all of your opinions, it’s a turd that needs to be flushed.
@AverageJoe1 saidIn theory, it works, in practice, it is as bad as people are.
For me, I think absolutely everything about it is 100%b bad.
What say you?
People screwing up a good idea. Kinda like Capitalism.
@shavixmir saidWell, for example, do some people, who work harder than others, get to 'save up' that which they have worked for, or does the government have some interest in the use of said work products? Do other people, who have less than the hard worker, actually share in the use of said products?
You have never once defined it correctly.
So, like all of your opinions, it’s a turd that needs to be flushed.
This is a fair question by a person who cannot define communism.
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"
Acts 4:32–35: ³² And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. ³³ And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all. ³⁴ Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, ³⁵ And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
@AverageJoe1 saidMy last post was a response to this.
Well, for example, do some people, who work harder than others, get to 'save up' that which they have worked for, or does the government have some interest in the use of said work products? Do other people, who have less than the hard worker, actually share in the use of said products?
This is a fair question by a person who cannot define communism.
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