Originally posted by darvlayI think we should make a distinction between what
Since everybody LOVES to discuss religion...
Besides the usual rhetoric of "because there is no God.", are there any naysayers out there who would like to discuss why they feel religion as an organized body is, simply put, a crock of excrement? This discussion is not limited to discussing Christian faith, although I'm sure it will still be the main fo ...[text shortened]...
I guess Satanism is the only thing left that doesn't fit these molds.
Rege Satanas!
Darv
a religion strives to be and how it may fail in its aim
(even routinely).
Those faithful members of some religious practices
abhor every one of your criteria (not an exhaustive
list of the crimes made in the name of religion, to be
sure!); they remain in that religious tradition to try
to shape it into a more perfect image, that a message
of active loving compassion be the normative modus
operandi for all.
Nemesio
Originally posted by nemesioThis is very admirable, I feel the same way about bringing respect and credibility to the First Church of Satan. If only the world could rid itself of its ignorance towards this upstanding organization.
I think we should make a distinction between what
a religion strives to be and how it may fail in its aim
(even routinely).
Those faithful members of some religious practices
abhor every one of your criteria (not an exhaustive
list of the crimes made in the name of religion, to be
sure!); they remain in that religious tradition to try
to shape it in ...[text shortened]... message
of active loving compassion be the normative modus
operandi for all.
Nemesio
Originally posted by darvlaypcaspian - i am awaiting your rebuttal on this...
So your experience in dealing with Satanists goes back to some misfit friend you had in high school? Did it ever occur to you that your friend was not adhering to the benevolent tenets of the First Church of Satan whilst performing these twisted acts? He was most likely a masochistic product of an abusive childhood who was easily manipulated by another soc ...[text shortened]... admit that you are just a large naif who's adept at stereotypes and out of touch with reality?
Originally posted by darvlay
pcaspian - i am awaiting your rebuttal on this...
There is no requirement for rebuttal, you've hardly made a point. All you've claimed is that even though every Satanist I've ever known have all been 'misfits' and listened to Slayer and Metallica religiously, that should in no way make me judge Satanists in a harsh light. Heck, worshipping Satan is enough to make if stuffed up, but then you form your own cult and feel good about it.
Originally posted by pcaspianGod, what a naif you are. Go back to your sheltered world, pcaspian.
Originally posted by darvlay
[b]pcaspian - i am awaiting your rebuttal on this...
There is no requirement for rebuttal, you've hardly made a point. All you've claimed is that even though every Satanist I've ever known have all been 'misfits' and listened to Slayer and Metallica religiously, that should in no way make me judge Satanists i ...[text shortened]... g Satan is enough to make if stuffed up, but then you form your own cult and feel good about it.[/b]
Originally posted by pcaspianPcaspian:
Originally posted by darvlay
[b]pcaspian - i am awaiting your rebuttal on this...
There is no requirement for rebuttal, you've hardly made a point. All you've claimed is that even though every Satanist I've ever known hav ...[text shortened]... tuffed up, but then you form your own cult and feel good about it.[/b]
Wouldn't you blanch if every Christian that I knew
was like the abominble sort that think that only
white folk are going to heaven?
What about those who say that 'hate is a Christian
value?'
What about those who picketted Matthew Sheppard's
funeral, saying that he is burning in hell?
Wouldn't you have something to say about this;
wouldn't you say something like, 'That's not what
Christianity is about!'
If I retorted with, 'Well, that's the only Christianity
I've ever seen,' wouldn't you have some words for me?
Certainly you aren't claiming that you have an
exhaustive understanding of the First Church of Satan
based on the people you know? Right?
Nemesio
Originally posted by nemesio
Pcaspian:
Certainly you aren't claiming that you have an
exhaustive understanding of the First Church of Satan
based on the people you know? Right?
Nemesio
I also do not have an exhaustive understanding of suicide bombing, yet the very act of blowing yourself up (and a few people with you) goes against my faith. Ofcourse I can do an exhaustive search for all satanists until I find some that I may associate with, but as satanism by my faith is people who worship the 'deceiver' , I find anyone trying to convince me otherwise, lying. As such I have no option but to judge those that have associated with satanism by their actions.
Then again, perhaps you can do research on the topic and report back what you find.
Me, my faith in the Bible gives me no reason to believe such foolish words. Should I believe the worshippers of Satan ?
John 8 vs. 44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it.