@mott-the-hoople said
question is, who are YOU to decide?
there is agreed upon criteria, palestine doesnt qualify.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_state
MTH: wikipedia doesnt determine statehood dumbass
13 Mar 22
@shavixmir saidDo you accept anti-Russian rhetoric is western propaganda that should be highly scrutinized? Everybody accepts propaganda exists, but not everyone accepts it is coming from their own country.
With the anti-Russian rhetoric returning to cold war levels, every institute (capitalist, media or otherwise) ramping up sanctions, propaganda and donating and the mass concern for Ukrainians; fleeing or not, will this deter other nations from invading others?
Once this crisis has subsided, and Israel decides to annex more of Palestine, are we going to see this same leve ...[text shortened]... against US forces?
Will this end up protecting Taiwan?
Could something good come of all this?
13 Mar 22
@Metal-Brain
Sure, we will scrutinize OUR propaganda if YOU deep scrutinize the PUTIN propaganda Russian state media spoon feeds their people.
Did you perhaps notice Putin cut off any communications over social media from ALL of Russia.
I guess you figure that has to be a good thing and you can't wait for the same thing to happen to the US so you can say, SEE, I was right........
13 Mar 22
@sonhouse saidI scrutinize all propaganda. Unlike you, I accept all countries spread propaganda. You think it is only other counties, yet you accept double think as if that is logical cognitive dissonance.
@Metal-Brain
Sure, we will scrutinize OUR propaganda if YOU deep scrutinize the PUTIN propaganda Russian state media spoon feeds their people.
Did you perhaps notice Putin cut off any communications over social media from ALL of Russia.
I guess you figure that has to be a good thing and you can't wait for the same thing to happen to the US so you can say, SEE, I was right........
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13 Mar 22
@metal-brain saidExcept that of Rumble and (therefore) your Putinist paymasters.
I scrutinize all propaganda.
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13 Mar 22
@shavixmir saidYou mean like IRAQ?
Quite possible. Quite bleak too.
Do you think if the West (NATO, the US or Europe) invade a country and there’s no outcry about it, that there will be a mass pointing of fingers and shouting of: “Hypocrite”?
Or do you reckon people will shrug it off?
14 Mar 22
@shallow-blue saidRumble does not control content. All they do is make it available.
Except that of Rumble and (therefore) your Putinist paymasters.
When you see misinformation on the internet do you blame the internet? When you blame Rumble it is the same flawed logic. What about all that misinformation on youtube? Do you have a problem with youtube as well or do you like that misinformation better?
14 Mar 22
@metal-brain saidCould be a bit specific about western propaganda concerning the invasion of Ukraine?
Rumble does not control content. All they do is make it available.
When you see misinformation on the internet do you blame the internet? When you blame Rumble it is the same flawed logic. What about all that misinformation on youtube? Do you have a problem with youtube as well or do you like that misinformation better?
16 Mar 22
@sonhouse saidYou are scrutinizing OUR propaganda? What propaganda have you scrutinized? Let me guess, anything right wing you don't agree with. That doesn't count. We are talking about war propaganda.
@Metal-Brain
Sure, we will scrutinize OUR propaganda if YOU deep scrutinize the PUTIN propaganda Russian state media spoon feeds their people.
Did you perhaps notice Putin cut off any communications over social media from ALL of Russia.
I guess you figure that has to be a good thing and you can't wait for the same thing to happen to the US so you can say, SEE, I was right........
16 Mar 22
@kevcvs57 said“Military airbase ON POLISH BORDER bombed by Russia.”
Could be a bit specific about western propaganda concerning the invasion of Ukraine?
Young Ukrainian girl opposing soldier.
(Not sure if this is actually propaganda as such, but it’s viral… and it’s actually a Palestinian girl standing up to an Israeli soldier).
The West’s propaganda is generally more subtle than Russian or Middle-Eastern propaganda.
So, instead of lying or making things up, they highlight certain details to frame the story in the way they hope to nudge people in the right direction.
16 Mar 22
@shavixmir saidThe West’s propaganda lies and makes stuff up. WMDs for example. Anthrax attacks from Iraq that actually came from a US lab. Babies being thrown out of incubators that never happened.
“Military airbase ON POLISH BORDER bombed by Russia.”
Young Ukrainian girl opposing soldier.
(Not sure if this is actually propaganda as such, but it’s viral… and it’s actually a Palestinian girl standing up to an Israeli soldier).
The West’s propaganda is generally more subtle than Russian or Middle-Eastern propaganda.
So, instead of lying or making things up, they ...[text shortened]... ight certain details to frame the story in the way they hope to nudge people in the right direction.
https://rumble.com/vx0plj-hill.tv-calls-out-the-fake-ukraine-propaganda-from-the-mainstream-media.html
Stop fooling yourself. I could make a long list of covid and covid vaccine lies.
16 Mar 22
@shavixmir saidWell the the bombing was only 20 miles from polish border so an exaggeration at worse an possibly an accurate description highlighting the reckless attitude toward possible escalation by the Russian forces.
“Military airbase ON POLISH BORDER bombed by Russia.”
Young Ukrainian girl opposing soldier.
(Not sure if this is actually propaganda as such, but it’s viral… and it’s actually a Palestinian girl standing up to an Israeli soldier).
The West’s propaganda is generally more subtle than Russian or Middle-Eastern propaganda.
So, instead of lying or making things up, they ...[text shortened]... ight certain details to frame the story in the way they hope to nudge people in the right direction.
Haven’t seen the Israeli girl thing but unless we know who generated it it could just as easily be a Russian plant which enables them to make the false claim of equivalence in terms of propaganda, there are plenty of verified cases of Ukrainian civilians standing up to the Russian invaders for the west not to need to make them up.
Unless you have evidence that Ukrainian cities are not being subjected to the same Russian playbook of aerial obliteration that they used in Grozny and Aleppo but that’s what I’m seeing every night on news feeds that I trust far more than MBs sources.
I think the notion that their is some kind equivalence concerning Russian and western propaganda is fanciful to say the least and Russian propaganda in and of itself.