@kazetnagorra saidWe do NOT have a scientific consensus that says man is the main cause of global warming. You would have to poll all climate scientists to determine the consensus and that has NEVER been done.
1) Saying "the science" validates a theory and that there is "scientific consensus" are one and the same thing. Scientists are only people, they are not infallible, but who better to judge the science than scientists themselves?
2) And unless and until those "bright bulbs" do such a thing, laymen would be well-advised to trust the scientific consensus. After all, you as a layman are not in a position to judge which of the dissenters are on to something.
@xyyz saidDo you realize that ice core samples prove temperatures caused CO2 levels to rise?
Do you realize that this '100% false' report is from the Trump admin.? The people he has hand picked to be his closest advisors are now in a total state of disarray, the people with ties to Trump who are not already in jail, that is. And Trump is the reason for this confusion, not the news or his detractors, Trump and Trump alone.
Do you realize that climate models are a "guess"? Guesses are not science. Do you realize that?
@deepthought saidI get my information from climate scientists and retired climate scientists like S. Fred Singer and you know it. You are just holding a grudge because I exposed you as a liar when debating this subject on the science forum. Now you are lying again. I have not posted a Breitbart link to prove anything to you that I recall.
I wouldn't bother, he thinks he's a free thinker because he gets all his information from Breibart, Russia Today, and Climate Change Denial websites. I've basically stopped contributing to threads on climate change in the science forum because of his toxic presence.
It is quite pathetic that you have to make stuff up.
@metal-brain saidWe do, and we did, as has been pointed out to you ad nauseam.
We do NOT have a scientific consensus that says man is the main cause of global warming. You would have to poll all climate scientists to determine the consensus and that has NEVER been done.
28 Nov 18
@kazetnagorra saidThen stop falsely claiming there is a consensus. False claims are why alarmists come across as chicken little morons. Take Andrew Light for example. He falsely claimed "Hurricanes Irma and Maria were the result of human-driven climate change."
We do, and we did, as has been pointed out to you ad nauseam.
https://www.engadget.com/2018/11/27/climate-change-fourth-national-assessment-global-warming-trump/?yptr=yahoo
Hurricanes are fueled by the contrast between warm water and a colder upper atmosphere. It is the cycle of evaporation and condensation both that cause hurricanes.
Warming alone does not fuel hurricanes. It is a myth. There is actually evidence that more hurricanes form in cooler climates. There is also no evidence they are getting stronger.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Hurricane_of_1780
As long as morons like Andrew Light keep lying to people, alarmists will be regarded as "science deniers". Set your own morons straight if you want to be taken seriously. They are making you all look stupid!
@metal-brain saidThere is a consensus as has been pointed out and explained to you ad nauseam.
Then stop falsely claiming there is a consensus. False claims are why alarmists come across as chicken little morons. Take Andrew Light for example. He falsely claimed "Hurricanes Irma and Maria were the result of human-driven climate change."
https://www.engadget.com/2018/11/27/climate-change-fourth-national-assessment-global-warming-trump/?yptr=yahoo
Hurricanes ar ...[text shortened]... Set your own morons straight if you want to be taken seriously. They are making you all look stupid!
28 Nov 18
@kazetnagorra saidRemind us all of what percentage of climate scientists were sent e-mails, what percentage responded and how they conducted their e-mail search.
There is a consensus as has been pointed out and explained to you ad nauseam.
There are polls and there are real polls. You would think an alleged billion dollar problem would demand a proper poll.
e-mails? Please....you have heard of a spam folder, right?
Funny how government can afford to fund climate scientists but not a decent poll to know a proper consensus of them.
29 Nov 18
@metal-brain saidRemind me, what am I meant to have lied about?
When you lie you should be exposed for it. I didn't attack you, I exposed you for lying. I realize some people resent me for revealing the truth and exposing them for lying (deepthought is good example), but I am not responsible for other people resorting to lies.
You brought it on yourself just like deepthought did. Deal with it.
30 Nov 18
@deepthought saidIce sheets don't float. Sea ice floats.
Remind me, what am I meant to have lied about?
https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/science/is-this-a-verifiable-claim.177012/page-19
30 Nov 18
@Metal-Brain
And of course he didn't know that, a Phd in physics.
You are out of your depth, way beyond your pay grade.
It seems to me you must be on SOMEBODY'S payroll because of your insistence there is no human involvement in global warming.
Like that assshole senator taking in a scoop of snow and then asking where is the warming?
30 Nov 18
@sonhouse saidKnow what? What are you talking about?
@Metal-Brain
And of course he didn't know that, a Phd in physics.
You are out of your depth, way beyond your pay grade.
It seems to me you must be on SOMEBODY'S payroll because of your insistence there is no human involvement in global warming.
Like that assshole senator taking in a scoop of snow and then asking where is the warming?
@metal-brain saidThe polling procedures and the overwhelming evidence for a consensus among climate scientists have been pointed out to you ad nauseam.
Remind us all of what percentage of climate scientists were sent e-mails, what percentage responded and how they conducted their e-mail search.
There are polls and there are real polls. You would think an alleged billion dollar problem would demand a proper poll.
e-mails? Please....you have heard of a spam folder, right?
Funny how government can afford to fund climate scientists but not a decent poll to know a proper consensus of them.
01 Dec 18
@kazetnagorra saidRemind us all of what percentage of climate scientists were sent e-mails, what percentage responded and how they conducted their e-mail search. YOU DO NOT WANT TO ANSWER BECAUSE IT IS VERY LOW.
The polling procedures and the overwhelming evidence for a consensus among climate scientists have been pointed out to you ad nauseam.
There are polls and there are real polls. You would think an alleged billion dollar problem would demand a proper poll.
e-mails? Please....you have heard of a spam folder, right?
Funny how government can afford to fund climate scientists but not a decent poll to know a proper consensus of them.
OMITTING THE INDIFFERENT IS PATHETIC. FAIR POLLS DO NOT OMIT THE INDIFFERENT. furthermore, how do we know certain people conducting the poll didn't call up like minded climate scientists and tell them to check their spam folder?
IT NEEDS TO BE DONE BY MAIL AND FOLLOWED UP BY PHONE CONTACT. Maybe even going to the person's house. It would be best to get every opinion possible , right? You don't oppose that do you?
YOU ARE NOT AFRAID OF IMPROVED POLLS ARE YOU?
01 Dec 18
@metal-brain saidWe do.
We do NOT have a scientific consensus that says man is the main cause of global warming. You would have to poll all climate scientists to determine the consensus and that has NEVER been done.
And there is no need to poll all climate scientists.
You think when there is consensus among a population each one has to have a vote?
01 Dec 18
@metal-brain saidA guess?
Do you realize that climate models are a "guess"? Guesses are not science. Do you realize that?
Don't be ridiculous, they are based on physical processes.