wondering...

Originally posted by rooktakesqueen
is there actual proof that the future can be predicted, if so, what is that proof?

The world financial markets are absolute proof against this. If someone was able to predict the future correctly even 90% of the time, that person would in a very short time own everything that is buyable. This has not happened so accurately predicting the future is not possible.

Originally posted by moweut
The world financial markets are absolute proof against this. If someone was able to predict the future correctly even 90% of the time, that person would in a very short time own everything that is buyable. This has not happened so accurately predicting the future is not possible.

All this proves is that it is not possable right now

Originally posted by mhoffman
All this proves is that it is not possable right now

So mhoffman, is it tomorrow or next tuesday that you will be owning every thing ?

Originally posted by moweut
So mhoffman, is it tomorrow or next tuesday that you will be owning every thing ?

wow do you find what i said wrong...just becuase we dont have the understanding today...does not mean that we will not understand in the future.

Originally posted by mhoffman
wow do you find what i said wrong...just becuase we dont have the understanding today...does not mean that we will not understand in the future.

This "?" is a question mark, this "." is a full stop.

Originally posted by moweut
This "?" is a question mark, this "." is a full stop.

Its a statment.


And is the best you could come with. to insult me insted of debating.

Originally posted by Palynka
Actually, since the question is: "Is it possible?", it suffices to claim one case to prove it.

A proof requires more than just a single case. I don't see that phrase in the original question.

Originally posted by spruce112358
A proof requires more than just a single case. I don't see that phrase in the original question.

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is there actual proof that the future can be predicted, if so, what is that proof?

One case where the future was predicted is enough to prove that it CAN be predicted.

Originally posted by Palynka

One case where the future was predicted is enough to prove that it CAN be predicted.[/b]

I agree

Originally posted by Palynka
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[b]is there actual proof that the future can be predicted, if so, what is that proof?

One case where the future was predicted is enough to prove that it CAN be predicted.[/b]

No, that was just luck. You have no proof that you actually predicted the future.

You can structure the argument in two ways.

You can accumulate case after case of correctly predicting things and show that that is extremely unlikely to be just due to luck. That's a huge amount of statistical (empirical) evidence. Not a proof, but enough for most people.

OR you can show mathematically that prediction of a future event is possible.

The second is an intruiging question.

Originally posted by spruce112358
No, that was just luck. You have no proof that you actually predicted the future.

You can structure the argument in two ways.

You can accumulate case after case of correctly predicting things and show that that is extremely unlikely to be just due to luck. That's a huge amount of statistical (empirical) evidence. Not a proof, but enough for most people.

then let me ask you this...if there was no empirical evidence that someone or something is predecting the future is that still luck even if its 100% accurate?

Originally posted by spruce112358
No, that was just luck. You have no proof that you actually predicted the future.

You can structure the argument in two ways.

You can accumulate case after case of correctly predicting things and show that that is extremely unlikely to be just due to luck. That's a huge amount of statistical (empirical) evidence. Not a proof, but enough for most p ...[text shortened]... tically that prediction of a future event is possible.

The second is an intruiging question.

If it's one action we're predicting, then it's clear that it is possible. If it's the entire universe, obviously it is impossible.

I don't see what you're getting at.

Do you think that the fact that error exists prevents all possibility of prediction?

Originally posted by Palynka
If it's one action we're predicting, then it's clear that it is possible. If it's the entire universe, obviously it is impossible.

I don't see what you're getting at.

Do you think that the fact that error exists prevents all possibility of prediction?

I'm splitting hairs. It's what I do.

Obviously there are things that can be predicted with essentially 100% accuracy -- the sun comes up every morning. The question is, why do we know that?

Well, you say, it always has for billions of years. But I say, just because it always has doesn't mean it will tomorrow (And one day, I will be right -- but leave that aside).

The question is, is there a way to logically argue from some premise that a future event WILL occur. That means you will be 100% right no matter what -- no reliance on the past. Just pure reasoning.

My sense is, "no". But I can't prove it.

Originally posted by spruce112358
I'm splitting hairs. It's what I do.

Obviously there are things that can be predicted with essentially 100% accuracy -- the sun comes up every morning. The question is, why do we know that?

Well, you say, it always has for billions of years. But I say, just because it always has doesn't mean it will tomorrow (And one day, I will be right -- but le ...[text shortened]... no reliance on the past. Just pure reasoning.

My sense is, "no". But I can't prove it.

Fine by me. Let's split some hairs.

There's no 100% accuracy about the present or the past, why demand it for the future?

Originally posted by rooktakesqueen
is there actual proof that the future can be predicted, if so, what is that proof?

some people can predict but even if he can predict the future the people wont believe him ... the proof is like a ghost . u cant see it . it just happen without notice...