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"UNITED NATIONS, Jul 11 (IPS) - As the United Nations commemorated World Population Day Wednesday, the United States remains the only major donor that continues to cut off funds to the only international agency focusing primarily on population: the U.N. Population Fund (UNFPA).

Since 2002, the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush has withheld about 161 million dollars in funding, the bulk of it appropriated by the U.S. Congress.

Relenting to pressure from right-wing neo-conservatives, the Bush administration has slashed funds based on a false claim that UNFPA supports coercive abortion in China. "

http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=38504

"The release of the $34m promised to UNFPA last year now depends on Mr Bush giving his signature.

UNFPA says the loss of the US funding would have a severe impact on its work in the developing world.

It says the $34m for family planning is enough to prevent almost 5,000 maternal deaths, two million unwanted pregnancies, nearly 60,000 cases of serious maternal illness, and almost 80,000 infant and child deaths. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1843208.stm

I guess the money will instead be spent on mr bush's own form of
population control

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Originally posted by Thequ1ck
"UNITED NATIONS, Jul 11 (IPS) - As the United Nations commemorated World Population Day Wednesday, the United States remains the only major donor that continues to cut off funds to the only international agency focusing primarily on population: the U.N. Population Fund (UNFPA).

Since 2002, the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush has withheld ...[text shortened]... stm

I guess the money will instead be spent on mr bush's own form of
population control
Why should the American tax-payer fund the Communist Chinese government to murder babies?

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It never ends. If America gets involved, it's a bad country and screwed. If America doesn't get involved, it's an even worse country and more screwed.

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Originally posted by Sam The Sham
It never ends. If America gets involved, it's a bad country and screwed. If America doesn't get involved, it's an even worse country and more screwed.
No, if America doesn't get involved then it is only bad in the eyes of left-wing scum who are always going to hate America anyway.

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Originally posted by princeoforange
Why should the American tax-payer fund the Communist Chinese government to murder babies?
Firstly the UNFPA is not in the business of killing babies. It is in place
to help women with reproductive health care and family planning.

The US based - Population Research Institute (PRI) is using a smear
campaign, endorsed by right-wing conservatives to limit funding of
UNFPA based on a 'right to live' ideology.

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Originally posted by Thequ1ck
Firstly the UNFPA is not in the business of killing babies. It is in place
to help women with reproductive health care and family planning.

The US based - Population Research Institute (PRI) is using a smear
campaign, endorsed by right-wing conservatives to limit funding of
UNFPA based on a 'right to live' ideology.
You don't support the right to life?

I think it is one of the few sensible rights laid down in the UN convention on Human Rights. Obviously murder should forfeit that right, but otherwise it is a very moral right.

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Originally posted by Thequ1ck
"UNITED NATIONS, Jul 11 (IPS) - As the United Nations commemorated World Population Day Wednesday, the United States remains the only major donor that continues to cut off funds to the only international agency focusing primarily on population: the U.N. Population Fund (UNFPA).

Since 2002, the administration of U.S. President George W. Bush has withheld stm

I guess the money will instead be spent on mr bush's own form of
population control
Since you have the information, pray tell, what was "contributed" to UNFPA last year from the UK? Or - are you one that looks over their garden wall to their neighbors unkept vegatation while ignoring their own.

Also, give totals for: France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Switzerland, Russia, China and India. Are they liable for 160m each? I am interested in how and why the burden is spread between nations for the glorious goal of [Ending selected lives and saving of others in China which the UN chooses.

China is inundated in cash from world trade. It is fact they are buying debt from USA. Also spending like drunken sailors to build the worlds #1 military.

Obviously, it seems logical to you for the USA (deeply in debt) to borrow money from China - to give to the UN - to give back to China for population control.

If so you would fit in nicely at the UN...like minds and all that rubbish! 🙄 Senseless, far left, radical, commie loons all!

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Originally posted by princeoforange
You don't support the right to life?

I think it is one of the few sensible rights laid down in the UN convention on Human Rights. Obviously murder should forfeit that right, but otherwise it is a very moral right.
I don't believe it's everyone's unalienable right to have as many
children as they see fit.

The UN declaration describes it as this :

Every human being has the inherent right to life. This right shall be protected by law. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his life.

Applying that law to a baby that has not yet been conceived, are we
taking away that right by providing facilities to limit population growth
by means of contraception, services and information?

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Originally posted by Thequ1ck
I don't believe it's everyone's unalienable right to have as many
children as they see fit.

The UN declaration describes it as this :

Every human being has the inherent right to life. This right shall be protected by law. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his life.

Applying that law to a baby that has not yet been conceived, are we
taking ...[text shortened]... g facilities to limit population growth
by means of contraception, services and information?
Not to a baby not yet conceived, the problem is with killing the unborn baby in the womb. I cannot really see a problem with preventing conception, but I do see a great problem with murdering unborn babies. There is a difference.

Furthermore, I do not see why people should not be allowed to have as many children as they see fit, provided they can support them into adulthood, what business is it of the state to say otherwise?

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Originally posted by MacSwain
Since you have the information, pray tell, what was "contributed" to UNFPA last year from the UK? Or - are you one that looks over their garden wall to their neighbors unkept vegatation while ignoring their own.

Also, give totals for: France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Switzerland, Russia, China and India. Are they liable for 160m each? I am interested ...[text shortened]... the UN...like minds and all that rubbish! 🙄 Senseless, far left, radical, commie loons all!
The number of UNFPA donor countries has steadily increased over the last few years, from 69 in 1999; to 172 in 2005, to last year’s new high of 180. The top six donors were the Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, the United Kingdom, Japan and Denmark. In addition, every nation in Latin America and the Caribbean, as well as all sub-Saharan Africa, pledged funds to UNFPA in 2006.

http://www.unfpa.org/news/news.cfm?ID=925

Although I couldn't get a year-to-date summary, I have heard no news
of ANY other contributor stalling funds.

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Originally posted by princeoforange
Not to a baby not yet conceived, the problem is with killing the unborn baby in the womb. I cannot really see a problem with preventing conception, but I do see a great problem with murdering unborn babies. There is a difference.

Furthermore, I do not see why people should not be allowed to have as many children as they see fit, provided they can support them into adulthood, what business is it of the state to say otherwise?
"UNFPA, the United Nations Population Fund, is an international development agency that promotes the right of every woman, man and child to enjoy a life of health and equal opportunity. UNFPA supports countries in using population data for policies and programmes to reduce poverty and to ensure that every pregnancy is wanted, every birth is safe, every young person is free of HIV/AIDS, and every girl and woman is treated with dignity and respect."

http://www.unfpa.org/news/news.cfm?ID=925

I can't see any mention of baby killing?

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Originally posted by Thequ1ck
"UNFPA, the United Nations Population Fund, is an international development agency that promotes the right of every woman, man and child to enjoy a life of health and equal opportunity. UNFPA supports countries in using population data for policies and programmes to reduce poverty and to ensure that every pregnancy is wanted, every birth is safe, every youn ...[text shortened]... ct."

http://www.unfpa.org/news/news.cfm?ID=925

I can't see any mention of baby killing?
How do they go about ensuring that every pregnancy is wanted?

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Originally posted by princeoforange
How do they go about ensuring that every pregnancy is wanted?
The Programme of Action of the International Conference on Population and Development held in Cairo, Egypt, in 1994 states that abortion should not be promoted as a method of family planning.

UNFPA fully subscribes to this and does not provide support for abortion services.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Abortion/Archive_1

edit. The preferred method for ensuring wanted pregnancies is that of
social services, contraception and family planning.

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Originally posted by Thequ1ck
The Programme of Action of the International Conference on Population and Development held in Cairo, Egypt, in 1994 states that abortion should not be promoted as a method of family planning.

UNFPA fully subscribes to this and does not provide support for abortion services.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Abortion/Archive_1
I don't believe that is the answer to the question I asked.

How do they ensure that all pregnancies are wanted?

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see edit on previous post. (try not to take 'all' too literally)

The Population Research Institute (PRI) says it has found the UNFPA guilty of promoting forced abortions, and the involuntary sterilisation of women.

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