@uzless
There was an actual scientific discussion about that issue and the gist was the little barbs were WAY to specific to have been engineered because our genetic science is WAY too fresh and new to come anywhere NEAR the ability to engineer a virus into that shape. It would involve a number of experiments like in the trillions to get even close and the gist of that is it was already here, as much as Canucks and other rightwingers want to blame China and if it was, it kinda backfired pretty spectacularly because if it was an engineering project the idea would be to foist it on an ENEMY not their own selves who just as it happened were the first to die from it so that theory has been thoroughly debunked.
Maybe in another couple hundred years of genetic scientific development, assuming our civilization is around long enough to HAVE a 200 or 300 year span without a nuclear war or some such, enough time to actually be able to invent deadly diseases in a lab but right now, it is like genetics is in around 3rd grade and we need it to be up to Phd level to weaponize some random virus.
Of course that argument would fly on deaf ears to you who clearly believe that crap.
@sonhouse saidThat's a strawman argument. Nobody is claiming that humans engineered the virus from scratch.
@uzless
There was an actual scientific discussion about that issue and the gist was the little barbs were WAY to specific to have been engineered because our genetic science is WAY too fresh and new to come anywhere NEAR the ability to engineer a virus into that shape. It would involve a number of experiments like in the trillions to get even close and the gist of that is i ...[text shortened]... random virus.
Of course that argument would fly on deaf ears to you who clearly believe that crap.
But it's highly likely that gain of function testing in Wuhan made an existing virus more transmissible in humans and that this was the origin of covid.
@sh76 saidOnly if it escaped the lab. Gain of function testing was done there for years with no lapses of protocol.
That's a strawman argument. Nobody is claiming that humans engineered the virus from scratch.
But it's highly likely that gain of function testing in Wuhan made an existing virus more transmissible in humans and that this was the origin of covid.
@Suzianne saidIt seems pretty easy for a lab leak to happen accidentally. One person working in the lab isn't careful enough and gets infected. He spreads it to his family and then it's gone.
Only if it escaped the lab. Gain of function testing was done there for years with no lapses of protocol.
They may have been careful for 10 years and then one person slips up and you get Covid-19.
That's the danger with GoF research.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidBecause they were Chinese, right?
wasnt anything accidental about it, our establishment pols along china released the virus intentionally
Why would they release into their own country first?
Oh, wait, they were inept, because they were Chinese, is that your brainstorm theory?
No. You said it was NO accident, right?
So they released it into their own country, on purpose, because they're just that evil, because they're Chinese, right?
Is that what you're saying?
@Mott-The-Hoople
Like I said, if so, it was pretty stupid since THEY were the first to start dying.
The other theory says you don't know what the hell you are talking about, just re puking what other ultrarightwingnuts just like you puked out in the first place.
@Suzianne saidpopulation cleansing…got rid of most old, sickly drags on the govt
Because they were Chinese, right?
Why would they release into their own country first?
Oh, wait, they were inept, because they were Chinese, is that your brainstorm theory?
No. You said it was NO accident, right?
So they released it into their own country, on purpose, because they're just that evil, because they're Chinese, right?
Is that what you're saying?
@Mott-The-Hoople
Can you come up with anything even MORE stupid as that?
You are a world class ASSSHOLE AND POS at the same time.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidI'll bet your parents told you you were a "special" child, didn't they?
population cleansing…got rid of most old, sickly drags on the govt
@sonhouse saidYou know full well that you don't have to 'create" the virus from scratch. that's not what Wuhan was (and still is) doing on their coronovirus research.
@uzless
There was an actual scientific discussion about that issue and the gist was the little barbs were WAY to specific to have been engineered because our genetic science is WAY too fresh and new to come anywhere NEAR the ability to engineer a virus into that shape. It would involve a number of experiments like in the trillions to get even close and the gist of that is i ...[text shortened]... random virus.
Of course that argument would fly on deaf ears to you who clearly believe that crap.
You can allow the virus to genetically alter itself by setting up the right conditions and watch it evolve very quickly, naturally, without humans engineering it.
You know this, Sonhouse.
The question is whether the virus was an accidental release. It wouldn't be the first time something escaped that lab. I'm NOT saying i think it was from the lab, but to deny it was even possible is just not correct.
@sonhouse saidwhat part of the population affect?
@Mott-The-Hoople
Can you come up with anything even MORE stupid as that?
You are a world class ASSSHOLE AND POS at the same time.