21 Jan 06
Originally posted by prosoccerThat's why people, perhaps you?, should think with their "big head" instead of their "little head", and women should quit spreading their legs like a peanut butter sandwich without birth control. An "unborn fetus" is LIFE! a human LIFE! Do you not understand? Your not calling it a baby is a sad excuse to abort it and be able to sleep at night. If you can't afford, love, and provide "it" a proper home, don't have "it". Isn't Africa, Haiti, most parts of the third-world proof enough that if you can't support children, don't have them? I would adopt a child if it was tossed in my lap with no other recourse, but I chose not to have children.....abortion=murder!!!!!
An unborn fetus isn't a baby, and what right do you have to make the parents decision to keep the child or not? What is the point of bringing a child into the world if we can't support it? If we can't make sure that it is loved, and has a proper home, and food on the table? Would you be the one to adopt all the children that would have been abortioned if l ...[text shortened]... he best choice (and for most who choose to abort, it would be)? Would you even adopt one kid?
21 Jan 06
Originally posted by prosoccerSo a fetus is a developing human right?
AN UNBORN FETUS IS WHAT IT IS! From Merriam-Webster dictionary: an unborn or unhatched vertebrate especially after attaining the basic structural plan of its kind; specifically : a developing human from usually three months after conception to birth
21 Jan 06
Originally posted by chancremechanicHowever, Chancre, the definition of a baby is that it is BORN...
LOL......watch that anger, no1....so, I'm a fanatic for wanting to prevent the deaths of millions of babies, and Hitler was a fanatic for killling 6 million Jews; something doesn't jibe, there. I suppose the ACLU are heros for protecting child buggerers, rejecting Jessica's law, and everything else that is common-sense promulgated?.....what logic!
Before it is born it's an inherent part of the female body. What she eats, the foetus eats. What she suffers, the foetus suffers and if she dies...the foetus dies.
As I believe everyone has the right to cut their own toenails (but shouldn't be forced to do so, if the don't want to), the same goes for getting rid of a foetus. It's part of their body. End of story.
Now. If you don't agree with it, don't do it. But let everyone make their own choices on the subject. Banning it, will only make matters worse, as I've said 1.000 times before.
But, back to the question at hand. I'm not sure what my "highest" value is.
I'd presume it's shagging as many women as possible, without getting a STD. But it could also be to drink as much without getting a hangover.
21 Jan 06
Originally posted by chancremechanicThe bible speaks of fetuses? Can you give us the chapter and verse please.
The dictionary was written by secular man, who thinks we come from the asshole of a tadpole. The Bible states different what a fetus is. God knows us before we are even conceived....the Bible, as God's written word, trumps Webster anyday......
21 Jan 06
leaving aside the cultish mumbo-jumbo on this one i am with chancre and slim....an unborn human is more than a toenail or cyst.
I dont think anybody can tell me when lines are crossed regards its advancement towards total humanity, when it feels, thinks or can survive without the aid of mum (babies are human before birth)....so i would rather not take the chance..its easier, simpler and, to me, more humane to say it has the potential from conception just as after it is born it has the potential to achieve any number of amazing things. I find it hard to reduce any human (potential or otherwise) to less than myself. Otherwise where do you stop.
The thing i hold most valuable is my families well being.
21 Jan 06
Originally posted by coiThe Bible has much to say on the topic, as discussed in the Spirituality Forum, under (owing to my misspelling) "Who give human life?"
leaving aside the cultish mumbo-jumbo on this one i am with chancre and slim....an unborn human is more than a toenail or cyst.
I dont think anybody can tell me when lines are crossed regards its advancement towards total humanity, when it feels, thinks or can survive without the aid of mum (babies are human before birth)....so i would rather not take the chan ...[text shortened]... yself. Otherwise where do you stop.
The thing i hold most valuable is my families well being.
21 Jan 06
Originally posted by shavixmirSure, a "baby" is considered born...OK. When conception occurs between the sperm and egg, a unique blueprint of a human being, unknown anywhere else in the universe, has been laid out. That "blueprint", or DNA, has one purpose and one purpose only: to create a human being in the form of a newborn baby. It is still considered a life form from the time of conception. As I've stated in many past posts, I would never stand in the way of nor prevent a woman from having an abortion because that is her decision to "kill" the developing "life" inside her. Her court date will come at a later time after she dies, but she can be forgiven, because the Bible states that ALL sin is forgivable, except the unacceptance of Jesus Christ as savior; but I don't to digress to a religious discussion; we can save that for the spiritual forums. What I can't understand from the secularists is that thousands of them will scream "SAVE THE WHALES" or "DON"T KILL BABY SEALS", or burn parking lots full of SUVs, but won't lift as much as a whisper to defend the "right" of a developing feotus (baby) to be fully born so that it can grow up to become perhaps a chemist, scientist, developer of a cancer, AIDS, MS cure.....or even just as a trash collector...seriving a useful purpose to society....I'm not against birth control, but once the egg and sperm meet, it becomes another issue.....and that issue is not birth control, or at least shouldn't be......
However, Chancre, the definition of a baby is that it is BORN...
Before it is born it's an inherent part of the female body. What she eats, the foetus eats. What she suffers, the foetus suffers and if she dies...the foetus dies.
As I believe everyone has the right to cut their own toenails (but shouldn't be forced to do so, if the don't want to), th ...[text shortened]... out getting a STD. But it could also be to drink as much without getting a hangover.
21 Jan 06
Originally posted by chancremechanicYes, once the almighty sperm and the unquestioned egg meet and all is good...
Sure, a "baby" is considered born...OK. When conception occurs between the sperm and egg, a unique blueprint of a human being, unknown anywhere else in the universe, has been laid out. That "blueprint", or DNA, has one purpose and one purpose only: to create a human being in the form of a newborn baby. It is still considered a life form from the t ...[text shortened]... sue.....and that issue is not birth control, or at least shouldn't be......
except part of that zygote becomes placenta, some fetal membranes, some the embryo. Which of these are human? What's your birthday?
21 Jan 06
Originally posted by FreakyKBHI once thought you were intelligent, but now I see differently. It's ALL human because it ALL constitutes a HUMAN BEING in the making....What's my birthday? Is that another way of asking me "What's your sign"? I'm a Piscean if that makes you feel better......
Yes, once the almighty sperm and the unquestioned egg meet and all is good...
except part of that zygote becomes placenta, some fetal membranes, some the embryo. Which of these are human? What's your birthday?
21 Jan 06
Originally posted by chancremechanicWhat is your placenta's birthday?
I once thought you were intelligent, but now I see differently. It's ALL human because it ALL constitutes a HUMAN BEING in the making....What's my birthday? Is that another way of asking me "What's your sign"? I'm a Piscean if that makes you feel better......