31 Jan 21
@sicilian-sausage saidIndeed, and where do these moments come from...? I mean your brain, obviously, but happiness seems to be a random event, 'triggered' sometimes by the smallest and most insignificant things. Trying to catch that and bottle it for later seems to be a futile endeavour; meditating must get boring after a while, we are hard - wired to be dynamic, at least I seem to be. Relaxation is all very well but then it's 'right done that, what's next?' So we strive, and striving has unpredictable consequences.
@Torunn
Occasionally, without warning, I have fleeting moments of complete contentment flow through me and all the stresses and anxieties of life vanish for the briefest of moments. During that instance, nothing matters. I wish I could tap into this and turn it on constantly. I'm guessing that it's what Buddhists tap into to achieve Nirvana.
I wouldn't want to be famous, it's too anonymous, I'd rather do things which people I know and love appreciate; keep it personal. You need so much money to get by, live healthy and be comfortable, after that I think it becomes a bit meaningless, I can't see the difference between a million quid and ten million quid, apart from the number of noughts. (is that how you spell noughts, doesn't look right...) Anyway, no fame, thanks, enough money to get by and a bit of happiness now and again; sorted.
Fame has to be the way to go, as it can bring you riches.
If you are as famous as Donald Trump, you could run for president of the US of A, and then, for a hidden fee, pardon federal prisoners HeHummm, or better, Raise capitol on the internet for the defense fund to flip the election, also, a 'HeHummmm'.
And Trump is still famous! Watch him end up with a new TV show or a revival of "Apprentice". This will make him even more famous!! rinse and repeat in 2024 :-)
03 Feb 21
@torunn saidOh, bog off. That kind of statement is just an excuse by people who have never known real problems, to blame people who have, for asking for recognition of their problems.
If we can avoid hoping for eternal happiness, the good feeling will come to us for a while or so
No. Good feelings will not come out of the air, just after All-American Thoughts and Prayers. Good feelings may - may! - come when a man has real reason to feel safe about his future. Luckier people blaming him for not mentioning his insecurities will never make that any more likely. Quite the contrary, it will only make him more certain that the lucky ones are after what little happiness he has left.
@earl-of-trumps saidHighly unlikely he will ever be President again. He will be fortunate not to wind up in Jail where he probably belongs.
Fame has to be the way to go, as it can bring you riches.
If you are as famous as Donald Trump, you could run for president of the US of A, and then, for a hidden fee, pardon federal prisoners HeHummm, or better, Raise capitol on the internet for the defense fund to flip the election, also, a 'HeHummmm'.
And Trump is still famous! Watch him end up with a new T ...[text shortened]... ow or a revival of "Apprentice". This will make him even more famous!! rinse and repeat in 2024 :-)
-VR
03 Feb 21
@relentless-red said"Money can't buy you happiness" is a great certainty to those who have enough money. Those of us who do not know that a lot of money might not buy you a lot of happiness, but some money at least lets you be unhappy in comfort or choose your preferred sort of unhappiness; and not enough money very, very definitely makes you very unhappy indeed.
I would totally agree with the idea that fame doesn't do it. I suspect money doesn't do it beyond the point where there is security, but I would feel happy to receive funding if people want me to do the experiment.
@shallow-blue saidYou sound like a man with a big chip on his shoulder s-b. You seem to have enough money to have a lap top or tower computer.
"Money can't buy you happiness" is a great certainty to those who have enough money. Those of us who do not know that a lot of money might not buy you a lot of happiness, but some money at least lets you be unhappy in comfort or choose your preferred sort of unhappiness; and not enough money very, very definitely makes you very unhappy indeed.
-VR
03 Feb 21
@kewpie saidDid it? When? Not during Grecian or Roman Antiquity. Not during the Golden Age. Not during the Enlightenment, or the Victorian era. Self-promotion has always been a flaw in the lower classes, but never in the upper ones. What has always been wrong?
Self-promotion used to be a character flaw, to be avoided if possible. What went wrong?
03 Feb 21
@shallow-blue saidI believe she was saying that happiness is fleeting, never a permanent state of being we should strive for. (Rather like chasing the wind).
Oh, bog off. That kind of statement is just an excuse by people who have never known real problems, to blame people who have, for asking for recognition of their problems.
No. Good feelings will not come out of the air, just after All-American Thoughts and Prayers. Good feelings may - may! - come when a man has real reason to feel safe about his future. Luckier ...[text shortened]... it will only make him more certain that the lucky ones are after what little happiness he has left.
I agree with her.
03 Feb 21
@shallow-blue saidDo you complain about EVERYTHING? 😉 😛
Did it? When? Not during Grecian or Roman Antiquity. Not during the Golden Age. Not during the Enlightenment, or the Victorian era. Self-promotion has always been a flaw in the lower classes, but never in the upper ones. What has always been wrong?
-VR