Originally posted by Bobla45And at one time there was a dude who claimed the world is round and that
I'm not argueing the validity of global warming, I'm making a comment on the sincerity of the guy who claims to care. Deflect my post all you want, the fact remains, the people of the state that Al Gore represented did not vote for him to become president of the United States.
by sailing to the west you would eventually reach the east. Very few believed
in him, and yet... he was right. You know?
But that's different still, because Al Gore not being voted for president by the
people of his state has absolutely nothing to do with his credibility in making
this film. The two are completely different matters.
Originally posted by rubberjaw30as well there should've been. red, after all, is a pretty color... it's not important that the rest of the world relies on the red designation to determine which parts of the u.s. are contaminated with stupid people, and are therefore dangerous to go to. be proud! what the hell is all of this hubbub about global warming anyway? it's not real! the president says so. santa's got things under control up there.
there was pride to be shared when CNN posted a red sticker over our state...
i don't find very much impressive about al gore, though i'm going to see him give his 'inconvenient truth' lecture next week, so i'll be interested to see what he's like in person - sometimes people come across very badly on tv. like president bush, for instance. or gordon brown.
gore may not have persuaded the voters of his own state to back him in the presidential election in 2000, but he did persuade just enough american voters to win the election overall, before jeb bush and co managed to cheat a few thousand decisive votes the other way. i think gore should have fought much harder to protect his victory - people at the time called him a bad loser because he let it go to the supreme court - i disagree - george w. bush was a bad loser, al gore was an extremely bad winner.
i don't think gore would have been a good president, but we can't know. i don't think george w bush has made a good president either, but it's too early to judge many elements of his presidency. we can also never know if 9/11 would still have happened - it's well documented that the incoming bush administration ignored the outgoing clinton officials' warnings about bin laden, but that doesn't mean that a gore administration would have done enough to prevent the attacks. i suspect 9/11 would have happened much the same. if it did, i'm sure military action in afghanistan would have followed under gore just as it did under president bush. we can probably be fairly confident, though, that a gore administration would not have invaded iraq.
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Originally posted by stockenThis is a myth that should not be perpetuated. The vast majority of people (esp. sailors) did NOT believe the world was flat during Columbus' time. A simple bit of research will turn up evidence to this fact.
And at one time there was a dude who claimed the world is round and that
by sailing to the west you would eventually reach the east. Very few believed in him, and yet... he was right. You know?
Originally posted by tmetzlerDuh! * Striking my forehead at my own failing memory * That's right. I
This is a [b]myth that should not be perpetuated. The vast majority of people (esp. sailors) did NOT believe the world was flat during Columbus' time. A simple bit of research will turn up evidence to this fact.[/b]
remember having a discussion about it elsewhere. How could I forget? It
was a pretty intense discussion too. 😳
My point stands though. You can't claim to be right about something based
on numbers. And especially not when the subject of discussion is on a
completely different matter than the one on which this large group agrees. I
think, to speak politics, that the current U.S. president is more than
enough proof that majority is not always right. 😛
Originally posted by stockenThe majority of votes counted is neither the majority nor the majority of votes. My understanding is that they don't count absentee ballots -- which would include everyone overseas in the military -- on election day but at a later time. That means that all those voters were voiceless.
Duh! * Striking my forehead at my own failing memory * That's right. I
remember having a discussion about it elsewhere. How could I forget? It
was a pretty intense discussion too. 😳
My point stands though. You can't claim to be right about something based
on numbers. And especially not when the subject of discussion is on a
completely different m ...[text shortened]... urrent U.S. president is more than
enough proof that majority is not always right. 😛
Just sayin'.
The post that was quoted here has been removedPardon? Firstly, how do you measure education so that you can say someone has ten times more than someone else? Secondly, how do you know? Wouldn't it depend on what the education was?
In any case, my subjective remark was based entirely upon his show biz stlye performance to date. Ok perhaps I would have been more accurate to say the man is a demagogue, an entertainer, not a scientist. He is a failed politician looking for investment in his company (Generation Investment Management) so it is very much in his interests to perpetuate the global warming myth. He will make millions mincing about the planet encouraging the gullible to invest in finding "solutions" to a non-existent problem. I take my hat off to him.