Originally posted by NordlysHmmm... If he was crying and there was something you could do to help him, why did you need something else to keep you awake, and why did you have time to come in here?
Hmmm... If he was crying and there was something you could do to help him, why did you need something else to keep you awake, and why did you have time to come in here? And if he was crying, but only your girlfriend could have helped him because he was hungry, how would staying awake and letting your girlfriend sleep have helped? And if he was awake, but not crying, why did you need to stay awake? What am I missing?
Because settling a baby after a feed takes time and is difficult to get back to sleep until they are sleeping expecially if they still have wind.So you may as well stay up wait until they fall asleep (which could take upto 1 hour) so will need entertaining for that period.
And if he was crying, but only your girlfriend could have helped him because he was hungry, how would staying awake and letting your girlfriend sleep have helped?
Because they have now invented something called SMA or extraction pumps so fathers can help out with feeds and is easier to take it in turns to feed the baby giving each adult a decent sleep (well as decent as possible!) every other night.
And if he was awake, but not crying, why did you need to stay awake?
As far as im aware Starrman is a new father and its difficult to get sleep when there is a restless baby next to you in their moses basket. Its better just to get up and try to settle them again.
What am I missing?
A brain!😕
Originally posted by rmacken"Because settling a baby after a feed takes time and is difficult to get back to sleep until they are sleeping expecially if they still have wind.So you may as well stay up wait until they fall asleep (which could take upto 1 hour) so will need entertaining for that period."
Hmmm... If he was crying and there was something you could do to help him, why did you need something else to keep you awake, and why did you have time to come in here?
[b]Because settling a baby after a feed takes time and is difficult to get back to sleep until they are sleeping expecially if they still have wind.So you may as well stay up wait until they ...[text shortened]... s better just to get up and try to settle them again.
What am I missing?
A brain!😕[/b]
I know it can be difficult to get babies back to sleep, but sitting nearby reading the chess forum certainly won't help any more than sleeping. And if you rock a baby, help it burp, talk to it, sing for it etc., you don't need anyone to amuse you.
"Because they have now invented something called SMA or extraction pumps so fathers can help out with feeds and is easier to take it in turns to feed the baby giving each adult a decent sleep (well as decent as possible!) every other night."
In that case it would be a situation in which he can do something to help, so it would be situation 1. But not everybody uses breast pumps (my sister only uses them if she has to work). And if you have to feed a child, you have something to do, too.
"As far as im aware Starrman is a new father and its difficult to get sleep when there is a restless baby next to you in their moses basket. Its better just to get up and try to settle them again."
Apparently his problem was not that he couldn't fall asleep, but that he couldn't stay awake. And again, if you try to settle a baby, you won't need someone else to keep you awake or busy.
Originally posted by NordlysI know it can be difficult to get babies back to sleep, but sitting nearby reading the chess forum certainly won't help any more than sleeping. And if you rock a baby, help it burp, talk to it, sing for it etc., you don't need anyone to amuse you.
"Because settling a baby after a feed takes time and is difficult to get back to sleep until they are sleeping expecially if they still have wind.So you may as well stay up wait until they fall asleep (which could take upto 1 hour) so will need entertaining for that period."
I know it can be difficult to get babies back to sleep, but sitting nearby readin ...[text shortened]... , if you try to settle a baby, you won't need someone else to keep you awake or busy.
I think the senario for a bloke is totally different to a woman, where a woman gets satisfaction cooing over their child as they lay wide awake might be exciting in their eyes, but in a blokes eyes its frustrating. We feed the baby, wind them for a while, wrap them up and pray that they fall asleep because we are knackered. We dont read or sing to them, just wish they would hurry up and fall asleep as soon as possible. This is the reason why Starman wanted entertaining himself because he was waiting for his kid to fall asleep and needed something to occupy himself.
In that case it would be a situation in which he can do something to help, so it would be situation 1. But not everybody uses breast pumps (my sister only uses them if she has to work). And if you have to feed a child, you have something to do, too.
He was helping because it was his turn to do the feed (As he has already stated!!) At this point I think he had fed his child unless he can hold the bottle in the same hand as his supporting hand (a hard task but possible!) therefore leaving him with a free hand to type/move here. Or at this point the baby could have been over his shoulder letting his milk go down therefore leaving a free hand again
Apparently his problem was not that he couldn't fall asleep, but that he couldn't stay awake. And again, if you try to settle a baby, you won't need someone else to keep you awake or busy.
Again missing the point, it is easier to stay awake until your newborn is asleep, therefore needing something to occupy your time until this happens
Quick question Noodles, how many kids do you have??
Originally posted by rmacken"I think the senario for a bloke is totally different to a woman, where a woman gets satisfaction cooing over their child as they lay wide awake might be exciting in their eyes, but in a blokes eyes its frustrating."
I know it can be difficult to get babies back to sleep, but sitting nearby reading the chess forum certainly won't help any more than sleeping. And if you rock a baby, help it burp, talk to it, sing for it etc., you don't need anyone to amuse you.
[b]I think the senario for a bloke is totally different to a woman, where a woman gets satisfaction cooing ov ...[text shortened]... upy your time until this happens
Quick question Noodles, how many kids do you have??[/b]
I doubt women find it any more fun to get up several times in the middle of the night and try to get their baby to sleep. My point is that if you think the baby will sleep more easily if you try to get it to sleep, you'll have to do so, and if you think it doesn't matter and you can just as well spend the time doing something else, and you are dead tired, I don't see why you can't take a nap instead of trying to stay awake all the time.
"it was his turn to do the feed (As he has already stated!!)"
I can't find a post by him in this thread where he says that. But it's beside the point anyway.
"Quick question Noodles, how many kids do you have??"
None. That's why I ask. Well, and also because my limited experience with babies and what I have observed in the families of my siblings is quite different.
Originally posted by NordlysGoing around in circles here but.........
"I think the senario for a bloke is totally different to a woman, where a woman gets satisfaction cooing over their child as they lay wide awake might be exciting in their eyes, but in a blokes eyes its frustrating."
I doubt women find it any more fun to get up several times in the middle of the night and try to get their baby to sleep. My point is that i ...[text shortened]... babies and what I have observed in the families of my siblings is quite different.
None. That's why I ask. Well, and also because my limited experience with babies and what I have observed in the families of my siblings is quite different.
Thats all I wanted to know.
Originally posted by rmackenSo you think if someone tells about something you haven't experienced yourself, and it sounds strange to you, you shouldn't ask for an explanation, because only people who have made the experience themselves deserve an explanation (although they probably don't need it)? I just have never met parents of infants before who asked to be kept awake, rather than trying to take a nap whenever they could.
Thats all I wanted to know.
Originally posted by Nordlys😕
So you think if someone tells about something you haven't experienced yourself, and it sounds strange to you, you shouldn't ask for an explanation, because only people who have made the experience themselves deserve an explanation (although they probably don't need it)? I just have never met parents of infants before who asked to be kept awake, rather than trying to take a nap whenever they could.
Like I said, he was proberbly trying to settle his baby and needed to be occupied while this was happening, is this too hard for you to understand??
Its not as easy to take a nap if they havent fallen asleep, believe me I tried it, unless they are settled properly you may aswell stay awake. If you dont settle the baby properly and try to sleep, you are only going to be woken up again 5 minutes down the line, with the possibility of waking your partner up if you bring the baby back into the bedroom.
I hope you understand a little more clearly, its all about routine, every baby is different and everyones parenting skills are different too. All of the above are my experiences being a father of two, and going through the whole experience myself.
As for the exact situation Starman was in, you better ask him to give you a blow by blow account on why he needed entertaining.