30 Oct 05
Originally posted by sonhouseI was once attacked and mauled by a monkey.
Anyone out in the forest lately see anything that could be like
the Bigfoot legend? I used to live in Alaska and the only thing
I saw was hair/fur on a tree which turned out to be a moose
rubbing its sides. Just curious.
I'd love to be able to say it was a bigfoot, a yeti or even a gorilla, but alas, it were but a spider monkey type beastie.
30 Oct 05
Originally posted by sonhouseIrrational numbers are quite interesting.
Thats the neat thing about PI, it DOESN'T repeat, not ever.
It is like a random number series but deterministic, that is to say
if you find the place in the set where you are, you can calculate
the rest of the set to as far out as you like. I think comps have
done it to a trillion places or so.
Carl Sagan used to write about how there might be message ...[text shortened]... le matrix universe.
If you found some actual image, OMG!
Xanthos, here is a challange for you!
As for images, with enough searching any image can be found in pi. Because it is infinitely long and doesn't repeat every combination of every length will occur an infinite number of times. Of course the chance of any single sample producing a recognizable image is miniscule but it's non-zero and therefore it will happen (a*infinity where a is a non-zero probability = infinity).
So, as it is easy to see that any image you wish exists in pi I have no need to find an example.
31 Oct 05
Originally posted by XanthosNZAh but what if its an image of the surface of a planet circling
Irrational numbers are quite interesting.
As for images, with enough searching any image can be found in pi. Because it is infinitely long and doesn't repeat every combination of every length will occur an infinite number of times. Of course the chance of any single sample producing a recognizable image is miniscule but it's non-zero and therefore it ...[text shortened]... So, as it is easy to see that any image you wish exists in pi I have no need to find an example.
Alpha Centauri?
That is to say, if there be images there, there may well be images
that would explain things also, maybe inventions, mathematical
theories proven, if PI has an infinite number of digits, they are all
there.
One problem with the image idea is choosing the size of the matrix.
You would have to try out millions or trillions of combinations that
would make up an image. 600X700, 601X700, 601X701, etc.
or 3000X3000X3000 if you were thinking in terms of 3D.
So where would you start?
Any irrational number would do, it doesn't even have to be PI.
I just picked that one for starters.
If an image was found that increased the sum of mankinds
knowledge, what would you think then? I bet there would be
a lot of comps chomping on all the irrationals.
31 Oct 05
Originally posted by sonhouseThere will be infinite images detailing a planet circling Alpha Centauri. However, how can those images be distinguished from images that look like they detail a planet circling Alpha Centauri but are in fact wrong?
Ah but what if its an image of the surface of a planet circling
Alpha Centauri?
That is to say, if there be images there, there may well be images
that would explain things also, maybe inventions, mathematical
theories proven, if PI has an infinite number of digits, they are all
there.
One problem with the image idea is choosing the size of the ...[text shortened]... hat would you think then? I bet there would be
a lot of comps chomping on all the irrationals.
There is no way of predicting the nth digit of pi (excluding the sneaky base 2 or 16 method which doesn't count as to convert to base10 you need all preceeding digits) without knowing every number up to that point. It is by defintion a chaotic system.
Nothing can be deduced from a chaotic system such as this. All possible information will be contained in the stream however as that is the case all of it is useless.
31 Oct 05
Originally posted by XanthosNZMy God do I ever love you.
There will be infinite images detailing a planet circling Alpha Centauri. However, how can those images be distinguished from images that look like they detail a planet circling Alpha Centauri but are in fact wrong?
There is no way of predicting the nth digit of pi (excluding the sneaky base 2 or 16 method which doesn't count as to convert to base10 yo ...[text shortened]... le information will be contained in the stream however as that is the case all of it is useless.
31 Oct 05
Originally posted by sonhouseNo , but my first wifes mother could probably pass for him .
Anyone out in the forest lately see anything that could be like
the Bigfoot legend? I used to live in Alaska and the only thing
I saw was hair/fur on a tree which turned out to be a moose
rubbing its sides. Just curious.