09 Jan 12
Originally posted by sonhouseAmerica has a really bad reputation over here for beer and rightly so if you were just drinking the branded crap, what they fail to discover however is some of the fantastic micro breweries you guys have... poor ignorant souls.
A lot of people think that is what beer is supposed to be like, poor souls.
My personal favorite is a local brew, Yuengling Lager, local Pennsylvania brew. I also have a friend who with his family, owns three microbreweries in Bethlehem and Allentown, just had dinner at the Brew Works in Bethlehem and had a seven beer sampler, lots of variations. Those big stainless tanks are awesome.
Originally posted by Great Big SteesI remember that, too. I was in Ohio once and they had a section of the cooler with 3.2% beer. If you were 18 you could buy that, but you had to be 21 to buy the full strength stuff.
I think I remember years ago that in some states you could drink beer that had something like 2-3% alcohol if you weren't quite old enough to drink the "real" thing. Am I dreaming?
Originally posted by Trev33The real problem is that those microbreweries rarely if ever export to Europe, while we have a plethora of good micro- and even macro-breweries ourselves.
America has a really bad reputation over here for beer and rightly so if you were just drinking the branded crap, what they fail to discover however is some of the fantastic micro breweries you guys have... poor ignorant souls.
You can get Trappists in the USA (even if, by the reactions I've seen on the 'net, at extortionate mark-ups - something the Trappists themselves should be none too happy about), but good luck trying to find a good USAnian beer being imported here. I've found some at my local offie - but only thrice, and that was years ago. They keep selling the canoe stuff, of course.
Richard
Originally posted by Shallow BlueSo are alcohlic drinks tasteful?
Amen!
Drinking for anything except the taste is alcohol abuse.
Richard
Did you drink a beer at aged 6 and like it, or find it abhorrent?
Anybody who drinks alcoholic beverages drinks for the affect, not the taste.
As a child we naturally like orange juice, eating apples and so on.
Coffee is a no no with a 4 year old, as is tea unless sugared.
So where did your "taste" for alcohl come from, in a drink?
Wasn't it developed, tried and tested, and the resultant being effect rather than a good 'taste'?
Drinking anything 'for' the taste of alocohol is, indeed, itself abuse. It isn't natural and doesn't taste good unless you became accustomed to it in certain years. Same as for coffee.
Amen.
-m. 😉
Originally posted by sbacatYes that's it. It was in Ohio that I saw it. My wife was in her last year at Kent State and at the time she was under 21 so all she could drink was that. I tried it...crap. and it took a lot of money to get her ...well it was an expensive venture. That was back in 1970. I think the called it 3/2 beer which makes sense considering the alcohol content.
I remember that, too. I was in Ohio once and they had a section of the cooler with 3.2% beer. If you were 18 you could buy that, but you had to be 21 to buy the full strength stuff.
Originally posted by mikelomGood ones, yeah. Vodka and Dutch gin, no.
So are alcohlic drinks tasteful?
Did you drink a beer at aged 6 and like it, or find it abhorrent?
I did not like beer until my late teens.
Funny, that. As a child I loved the sweetest, milkiest of chocolates, and could not stand the extra bitter stuff. Now, I like eating 70% and up, and find the ones with cows on the wrappers pointless.
When I was a child, I did not like leeks very much. Now, I do. I wasn't too fond of endives; now, if properly prepared, I like them,
Does this mean, in your mind, that I must be addicted to something in green vegetables, and eat them solely for the kick? Or does it, perhaps, mean that my taste has changed as I grow?
The answer is, of course, that your tastes grow with you. For all of us. And there are specific tastes which have been determined by biologists to be particularly attractive to children, and others which are particularly off-putting to them. Sweet and cloying is in the first category; bitter and musky in the latter. For adults, these preferences are reversed.
It is natural for children not to like drinks like beer and whisky, but also tea and coffee. It is equally natural for a teenager, as his tastebuds mature, to start liking such tastes.
Anybody who drinks alcoholic beverages drinks for the affect, not the taste.
I'm sorry, but that is simply not true. I do drink beer for the taste. That's why I drink Belgian ales rather than USAnian lagers. Please don't pretend to know my tastes better than I do.
So where did your "taste" for alcohl come from, in a drink?
The taste is not specifically that for alcohol. The taste is for more bitter, less sweet drinks. This has been shown more than once by people who know more about the human body than you or I ever will.
This is not to say that alcohol is not addictive. Of course it is. And of course it has an effect, which can be pleasurable. But please do not pretend to know that everybody who drinks alcoholic drinks does so for that effect alone, or even predominately. Many of us drink good beer, good whisky, good wine, and good cognac for the taste in the first place, and the alcohol in the last. That's why we drink the good stuff rather than Heineken and scorpion vodka.
Richard