04 Oct 07
Originally posted by ZadadkaI think they appeared after the USB installs and after I started downloading movies from Emule. Might have got the odd one before but at longer intervals. Lived with it till now, did a bit of research on the internet but beyond me, so just carried on with emule until I got limewire a couple of days ago, now the same thing happening.
Did the BSoDs appear soon after the USB2 installs and you've "lived with it" until now, or have they started "out of the blue"?
04 Oct 07
Originally posted by heldenSometimes I find re seating all the connections inside my machine staves off BSoD's. ie memory drives cards etc. Not sure if there is any logic behind this or if it is a placebo effect, but it it works for me. If you do, don't forget to observe anti static precautions and remove all power!
I think they appeared after the USB installs and after I started downloading movies from Emule. Might have got the odd one before but at longer intervals. Lived with it till now, did a bit of research on the internet but beyond me, so just carried on with emule until I got limewire a couple of days ago, now the same thing happening.
04 Oct 07
Originally posted by jimslyp69Gymslip....you absolute git (in a nice way).
Sometimes I find re seating all the connections inside my machine staves off BSoD's. ie memory drives cards etc. Not sure if there is any logic behind this or if it is a placebo effect, but it it works for me. If you do, don't forget to observe anti static precautions and remove all power!
I was just about to berate you in a major way for your last (unhelpful) post too !! Grrrr. 😉
Ok, moving on.
No, it's not placebo...it can have an impact...particularly if you have SATA drives...and removing and reseating the RAM every so often can be beneficial too.
Antistat precautions are largely unnecessary nowadays by the way.... 🙂
But Helden's problems are definitely hardware / driver based.
Helden, I'm beginning to suspect you have an "older" PC....PCWorld probably recommended a USB2 card to run the USB2 devices they were shoving in your checkout basket...do you know how to tell me your system specifications?
If not, don't worry, just tell me the Make & Model of your PC, and how much RAM you have in it.
If you have added a graphics card , I will need to know that too....Make & Model if relevant.
04 Oct 07
Originally posted by Dr Strangelove😀 I do so love learning something new.....thanks Doc....I didn't know Microsoft offered that facility, I've been using third-party apps for this function for yonks...
A rough guess is RAM broke or not enough or computer overheating.
Check RAM and make sure your cooling fans are clear of dust and hairs.
http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp
or
http://hcidesign.com/memtest/
At this time, I think it's a USB card / motherboard conflict.
Or USB / Graphics Card conflict.
Memory would have been next on the list though-but...
04 Oct 07
Originally posted by ZadadkaFujitsu euroline, 1700mhz, 1.7 ghz, 256ram, no added graphic card, one thing I have noticed since I got the usb 2.0 card fitted is that the computer will not shut itself of after I click computer turn off, it starts to reboot itself and you have to switch of at the plug.
Gymslip....you absolute git (in a nice way).
I was just about to berate you in a major way for your last (unhelpful) post too !! Grrrr. 😉
Ok, moving on.
No, it's not placebo...it can have an impact...particularly if you have SATA drives...and removing and reseating the RAM every so often can be beneficial too.
Antistat precautions are largely unnec ...[text shortened]... you have added a graphics card , I will need to know that too....Make & Model if relevant.
04 Oct 07
Originally posted by heldenOK....Fujitsu's I have respect for.....I have 20 Fujitsu-Siemens servers on one site, and 23 FJ workstations on another....they're good kit.
Fujitsu euroline, 1700mhz, 1.7 ghz, 256ram, no added graphic card, one thing I have noticed since I got the usb 2.0 card fitted is that the computer will not shut itself of after I click computer turn off, it starts to reboot itself and you have to switch of at the plug.
256 RAM is the absolute minimum to run XP.....do increase this...RAM is very cheap nowadays....go to www.crucial.com (ensure you select the UK site in the top right corner), or go to http://www.kingston.com/ukroot/.
Both sites will make it simple for you to establish what you need in terms of part number etc...it would serve you well to remember that in most circumstances, you simply CANNOT have too much RAM 🙂
Having said that....it's not the source of your current issues, but when we do resolve it, you will find the increased RAM will enhance your experience.
Having said that....I fear I'm right...your PC is around 4, maybe 5, years old.
Then, USB2 was a discussion, and manufacturers did not implement it.
Your USB card relies on your motherboard "understanding" the USB2 protocol, but it was made at a time when that protocol didn't exist.
Kinda, Catch-22.
Clearly (to me, anyway) your eMule/eDonkey software's are making calls on the system which it can't accommodate.
To cut a long story short, it's time to buy a new PC.
If that isn't viable for you, then you need to switch to BitTorrent to avoid these issues.
Finally, when you throw money at PCWorld, do remember you only have 3 months Warranty on any software issues.
After that, it's either tough-luck, or hope someone like me can get you out of a hole.
....which I haven't really.....but you at least know what's-up.
05 Oct 07
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Originally posted by Zadadkaterrible advice, if i bought a new pc or laptop everytime i had to repair a blue screen i would have made my company bankrupt by now...
OK....Fujitsu's I have respect for.....I have 20 Fujitsu-Siemens servers on one site, and 23 FJ workstations on another....they're good kit.
256 RAM is the absolute minimum to run XP.....do increase this...RAM is very cheap nowadays....go to www.crucial.com (ensure you select the UK site in the top right corner), or go to http://www.kingston.com/ukroot/.
out of a hole.
....which I haven't really.....but you at least know what's-up.
firstly, the absolute minimum for xp is 64mb, not 256... infact, if you're only serving the net and writing a few letters 256mb is more than enough...
also, if it is an old pc and doesnt have usb2 it will still run usb2 devices, only at a usb1 speed
strictly speaking, you can have too much ram, your motherboard i would say will only take up to 1bg or 2gb, so if you're buying more ram, be careful how much you buy
the last place i would send anyone to buy a laptop or pc is pc world...
the truth is with a bsod it can be anything, however, more often than not, it either points to ram or drivers... your particular blue screen points to a location in ram, thats not to imply its bad ram though
how far into the booting process can you get? try pressing f8 as soon as windows starts to load and see what happens... if you can boot into safe mode right click on my computer, go to manage, click on event viewer, then system and see if that gives any clues, there should be a few red crosses where the error's occurring... you could also do a system restore within safe mode, simply restore it to a time when the system was working, or remove any programs you installed just before the bsod happened
if you cant get into safe mode, insert a xp disk and boot from that, from there you can have windows repair itself, if you want to do it that way message me and i talk you through it....
if you have repaired windows and still the problem persist, it could well be hardware related, i would start by replacing the ram, if you have two sticks of ram take the one out furthest from the cpu...
good luck.... you're a long way off from having to buy a new pc
05 Oct 07
The best thing to do is to double up on your ram like you were advised. I did that to my computer and never regretted it. Other than a cleaning now and then I have never had any problems in five years. It is worth the small cost. But it may not fix the problem you have. For that I would just take in and have a professional look at it. It will usually save you time money and a lot of headache in the long run.
05 Oct 07
Christ almighty, this is a bus crash of an IT support thread.
With XP most 'Stop Errors' (aka the Blue Screen of Death) are either hardware or driver issues. Chances are that either PC world have f'ed up the installation of USB 2.0 or the drivers have become corrupt - best bet is to re-install it. From what I've seen here, I'd advise you take it back to PC world to get it done and not listen to wanna-be Tech goons on this site.