chip implant

Originally posted by Shallow Blue
You know who is, statistically, the most likely to abuse a child?

That nasty bloke down the road who never shaves? No.
That nice sweet shop owner who smiles just a little too much? No.
A random stranger, prowling the streets for ripe'uns? No.
The priest, the teacher, the sports instructor? No.

The parents.

Sobering, isn't it?

Richard

DEAD ON ACCURATE!!!

Robert

Originally posted by Ponderable

If it is a good thing, since one can locate a nabbed person easiyl why not tag everybody?
And while we are about it, especially people having proven to be unreliable (sex offnders, murderers,...)?

The question is who may monitor whom because of what reason?
Say, the offender has acces to the locating information. This knowlöedgeable person would al ...[text shortened]... have a reason to be somewhere you don't know? Could it be if you would be a oppressive parent?

Huxley, the prophet...


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Originally posted by CLL53
It might be a good idea, debatable though. Not sure just where on a child a chip could reasonably be implanted. The biggest negative I can see is that tagged dogs, tagged people, tagged whatever, only helps when the taggee is found - helps to identify where the taggee belongs. It won't help keep children from being abducted.

The most sensible post in this thread and everyone seems to have missed it. Chipping simply doesn't address the problem. It is not a system that reveals the location of the chipped person, rather it just reveals the identity of the chipped person when found, which can be done anyway.

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How about buying or renting a nice previously owned scalpel and keeping it in your pocket during visits to the hospital pediatrician check ups, just in case.


Edit: Call ChessPraxis @ S-AFE-SCA-LPEL.


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Brief flights of fancy, to puncuate the seriouness of the topic, bad? If so, sorry...

Originally posted by CLL53
It might be a good idea, debatable though. Not sure just where on a child a chip could reasonably be implanted. The biggest negative I can see is that tagged dogs, tagged people, tagged whatever, only helps when the taggee is found - helps to identify where the taggee belongs. It won't help keep children from being abducted.

That's true. Was looking a bit ahead. (wiki) Theoretically, a GPS-enabled chip could one day make it possible for individuals to be physically located by latitude, longitude, altitude, speed, and direction of movement. Such implantable GPS devices are not technically feasible at this time. However, if widely deployed at some future point, implantable GPS devices could conceivably allow authorities to locate missing persons and/or fugitives and those who fled from a crime scene.

But, as has been pointed out, the technology could lead to political repression as governments could use implants to track and persecute human rights activists, labor activists, civil dissidents, and political opponents; criminals and domestic abusers could use them to stalk and harass their victims; slaveholders could use them to prevent captives from escaping; and child abusers could use them to locate and abduct children.

I guess we need responsible govt first.

I lost my kid once, when I was at work. He was little more than a toddler. The police dept, the fire dept, and search and rescue all got involved, with the news media and their cameras on site. I'm atheist, but I prayed just in case and then helped in the search. He was found across the highway in a junkyard, sound asleep in an old wrecked school bus.

Sometimes I wonder what lesson I should learn from that experience. God is real? Our society is not horrible? We should use tech to protect our children?

Originally posted by apathist
Wouldn't our kids be safer? (We already tag our dogs.)

The problem is technology for the good guys and the bad guys advances together. We see virus activity in computers what, 25 odd years ago and anti virus software combat the bad stuff. But the bad stuff gets badder and the good guys have to keep getting sneakier to refute all that.

The same thing will happen to RFID's for kids.

The bad guys will get around them, perhaps with detectors that can remove them instantly or electronics that negates the signal like those cell phone killers you find in some offices.

So it is a technology that will have a limited lifespan and then be just another worthless effort, causing another escalating tech war.

Originally posted by apathist
That's true. Was looking a bit ahead. (wiki) [i]Theoretically, a GPS-enabled chip could one day make it possible for individuals to be physically located by latitude, longitude, altitude, speed, and direction of movement. Such implantable GPS devices are not technically feasible at this time. However, if widely deployed at some future point, implantable GPS ...[text shortened]... erience. God is real? Our society is not horrible? We should use tech to protect our children?

I'd take the middle one, and campaign to get the junkyard a more secure perimeter, it sounds like a dangerous place for a toddler to be able to toddle into.

Thanks for the happy ending.

Originally posted by sonhouse
The problem is technology for the good guys and the bad guys advances together. We see virus activity in computers what, 25 odd years ago and anti virus software combat the bad stuff. But the bad stuff gets badder and the good guys have to keep getting sneakier to refute all that.

The same thing will happen to RFID's for kids.

The bad guys will get a ...[text shortened]... imited lifespan and then be just another worthless effort, causing another escalating tech war.

The first part of your post, we can say exactly the same about our medics fight against virus and bacteria.

But then you say "So it is a technology that will have a limited lifespan and then be just another worthless effort, causing another escalating tech war."

So, in your view, it is stupid to keep trying? Because its a "worthless effort"? We shouldn't resist the flesh-eating bacteria, and the computer-eating bugs, and we shouldn't resist the child-using bad people?