24 Aug 07
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Originally posted by ArachnarchistGambit and Joe have made some good points about experience and timing... so it's a coin toss.
does it matter?
I stated in the opening that they would have flown the same amount of time in the same aircraft.
Basically what I'm asking is:
Who's the better pilot?
I'm of the feeling that if they were in an earlier plane Red Barron would have the advantage... but given equal experience as you have done leaves it a coin toss.
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Yes, it matters... but not if they are equally trained in the aircraft.
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24 Aug 07
I'll take it a step further... if they had equal training in a certain plane... plus what they already KNEW about their own plane the complexity of the plane would weigh heavy. Chuck in a jet, Barron in a prop plane. That's only if they have access to their original training, not equal training.
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25 Aug 07
Originally posted by ArachnarchistThe one flying a plane with ammo loaded . 😕
Hypothetical question:
Who would win in a dog fight between Chuck Yeager (WWII Ace; 17 kills) and the Red Baron (WWI Ace; 80 kills)?
Assume that they are both flying the same aircraft, and have had the same amount of flying time in the said aircraft. Also, assume that they took off from the same runway in opposite directions at the same time, leaving the pilots skill the only factor.
27 Aug 07
Originally posted by ArachnarchistI, personally, must give it to Chuck Yeager for the following reasons.
Hypothetical question:
Who would win in a dog fight between Chuck Yeager (WWII Ace; 17 kills) and the Red Baron (WWI Ace; 80 kills)?
Assume that they are both flying the same aircraft, and have had the same amount of flying time in the said aircraft. Also, assume that they took off from the same runway in opposite directions at the same time, leaving the pilots skill the only factor.
It seems to me that Yeager and the Baron are about equal as far as knowledge of maneuvers and dog fight strategy. However Yeager probably had better eyesight, since his vision was about twice as good as a normal persons, and in a dog fight that is no small advantage. Also for several years, Yeager was a test pilot at Edwards Air Base. After flying hundreds of aircraft for no more than three flights apiece, he could probably adapt better than the Baron to whatever new and neverbefore seen aircraft they were flying.
27 Aug 07
Originally posted by cashthetrashThe best can be beaten on any day, but lucky don't lose.
Having great vision, reflex, and training is all great, but it takes a lot of luck too, I would imagine whoever was the luckiest on that particular day would be the best. I would take lucky over skill any day.
28 Aug 07
Originally posted by ArachnarchistWhy Chuck Yeager (with 17 kills) as opposed to one of the many German WWII aces with over 100 kills?
Hypothetical question:
Who would win in a dog fight between Chuck Yeager (WWII Ace; 17 kills) and the Red Baron (WWI Ace; 80 kills)?
Assume that they are both flying the same aircraft, and have had the same amount of flying time in the said aircraft. Also, assume that they took off from the same runway in opposite directions at the same time, leaving the pilots skill the only factor.
28 Aug 07
Originally posted by ArachnarchistChuck of course, assuming his surname is actually 'Norris' and not Yeager.
Hypothetical question:
Who would win in a dog fight between Chuck Yeager (WWII Ace; 17 kills) and the Red Baron (WWI Ace; 80 kills)?
Assume that they are both flying the same aircraft, and have had the same amount of flying time in the said aircraft. Also, assume that they took off from the same runway in opposite directions at the same time, leaving the pilots skill the only factor.
28 Aug 07
Originally posted by onyx2006He wouldnt even need a plane, he'd just throw rocks at the plane he was fighting. nay, he would command the rocks. nay, he would command the opponents plane to crash.
Chuck of course, assuming his surname is actually 'Norris' and not Yeager.