31 Jul 07
Originally posted by Choreantblaming communism of stalin's atrocities is like blaming christianity of the crusades. neither had anything to do with the ideology, but politics instead. had stalin ruled a capitalist regime, or even a 'democracy' would've made no difference whatsoever.
Tell it to victims if Stalin's Gulags. What planet are you from ???
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05 Aug 07
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Originally posted by wormwoodI agree entirely. I can't see that anything is "offensive" about communism. Unless you consider flawed ideologies to be offensive.
blaming communism of stalin's atrocities is like blaming christianity of the crusades. neither had anything to do with the ideology, but politics instead. had stalin ruled a capitalist regime, or even a 'democracy' would've made no difference whatsoever.
Edit: Just thought of what may be an unpopular comparison... but it would be like banning the Stars and Stripes because of what is happening at Guantanamo.
05 Aug 07
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Originally posted by HumeAYou're not Polish though, or Chechen, or falon gong for that matter. I'm sure people from those countries/groups would have a different opinion on the offensiveness of Communism, and what communist symbols represent
I agree entirely. I can't see that anything is "offensive" about communism. Unless you consider flawed ideologies to be offensive.
Edit: Just thought of what may be an unpopular comparison... but it would be like banning the Stars and Stripes because of what is happening at Guantanamo.
05 Aug 07
What I'd like to know is why doesn't Red Night take on a serious crusade, like actually confronting the bigotry, racism, and lambasting which has taken over the Debates forum? That's a crusade that might actually be worthwhile and would gain my support, as opposed to the feeble kindergarten stakes of the General forum.
So? Got any real bottle RN?
05 Aug 07
Originally posted by huckleberryhounddoesn't change the fact that it's misguided as far as it's directed at the ideology. although it could also be mentioned that the red star, hammer and sickle are all attributes of certain oppressive regimes, not communism the ideology itself. excluding american media, where everything red means soviet union.
You're not Polish though, or Chechen, or falon gong for that matter. I'm sure people from those countries/groups would have a different opinion on the offensiveness of Communism, and what communist symbols represent
funnily enough, falun gong has a swastika in its logo, which receives similar misplaced negative attention. just because after thousand of years of being a symbol of good luck all over the world, some wacky austrian with a funny moustache decided to use it as a banner for his short-lived but infamous political party.
05 Aug 07
Originally posted by wormwoodand a symbol of some religious significance, before it was used by the Nazi regime. Interesting, no?
doesn't change the fact that it's misguided as far as it's directed at the ideology. although it could also be mentioned that the red star, hammer and sickle are all attributes of certain oppressive regimes, not communism the ideology itself. excluding american media, where everything red means soviet union.
funnily enough, falun gong has a ...[text shortened]... nny moustache decided to use it as a banner for his short-lived but infamous political party.
05 Aug 07
Originally posted by HumeAYes ,and fascism was just an innocent idea, only badly carried out. Hitler is by no means criminal, he didn;t kill a single jew himself. Goebbels, Himmler was just victims of the latter mainipulation. And who, a hell thought out a death sentence for Speer, he was an architect desiring only a peaceful development. O, I forgot, he was killed during in Nurnberg. It is unspeakable how the terrible allies, used thier position after WWII to ingerate in Germany inner affairs. It can ba compared, only to recent Sadam hanging(again USA). And, above all communism is prosperity and equality bringing ideology, which is based on solid forethought, and was always being carried out for the Greater Good. Unfortunately, few stupid countries(including Poland) fought to leave this paradaise, which can be compared only to the rebelion of first angels.
I agree entirely. I can't see that anything is "offensive" about communism. Unless you consider flawed ideologies to be offensive.
Edit: Just thought of what may be an unpopular comparison... but it would be like banning the Stars and Stripes because of what is happening at Guantanamo.
I can only congratulate you understanding of history. And this has nothing to do with my nationality.
05 Aug 07
Originally posted by hopscotchnot only greenhouse. It will make us flying above the roofs. The world shall bloom with colorful flowers. We shall all smile upon each other. No stupid posts on RHP forums. There shall be no sexual illnesses. Your shopping will carry itself to your house. You will see.
That wasn't communism, that was tyranny. Real communism is the best and will save the world from the Greenhouse fx.