07 Aug 05
Originally posted by AmauroteHmmmm, I just presumed that, by starting a thread about this band, that you were asking people's opinions of it. I offered my opinion, then you took it upon youself to pour your derision on me, in your conceited, sneering manner. I thought you may have been a little bit more open minded, to the fact that other people may disagree with your feelings of this new sound that you have discovered.
Well, now, I thought you were engaging in Sunday-night banter earlier on and played along, but this is getting a little silly. Your mistake was to come into a thread recommending a band and then start slagging it off (fine up to this point), but then to assume that my contradicting you in the same light-hearted spirit constitutes some kind of "slanging mat ...[text shortened]... e kind of transcendentally objective criterion hidden somewhere up your musicological fundament.
Okay, I admit that you have a better command of the English language than me. you have taught me what the word 'objective' means in all it's contexts, because you use it that much, it is starting to sound as monotonous as one of the songs that your beloved band plays. But that proves nothing about your musical ability, feeling and 'taste'.
I asked the question, 'do you actually play any instrument yourself?'. You skirted around this with your barrage of fancy terminology and BS. When it comes to music, you know nothing about skill. talent or technical ability. You like listening to bands that make music in a test tube, and have to take class A's to enjoy. Enjoy Creamfields mate, and the synthesised shiasma it pumps out. Beep beep beep.
08 Aug 05
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Originally posted by jimslyp69Oh, Lord. Look, don't take your petty neuroses out on me, I'm not remotely interested in your apparent feelings of superiority or inferiority or both/neither towards me, nor at any point have I "poured my derision", "barraged" or claimed to have a "better command of English" than you - this silly status nonsense is all in your head, so stop being so anal about it and grow some skin. The only derision I see here is the stuff in your very first posts, which I responded to with mild banter. If you find that deeply mortifying, then I'm sorry, but I thought I was merely responding in kind, I actually had a wry smile on my face when reading and responding to your initial posts, I thought you did, too, but no, evidently you had a much more serious intent than mere trolling.
Hmmmm, I just presumed that, by starting a thread about this band, that you were asking people's opinions of it. I offered my opinion, then you took it upon youself to pour your derision on me, in your conceited, sneering manner. I tho ...[text shortened]... ds mate, and the synthesised shiasma it pumps out. Beep beep beep.
As far as the objectivity crap - well, you brought it up. The tenor of your argument was "You're a taste fascist, when in fact all taste in music is subjective, apart from boy bands, who are objectively crap." I was merely calling you on that, because to my mind that caveat makes you the taste fascist, not me. I asked you for an objective criterion for what makes them inferior - you don't answer. That speaks volumes for your BS.
As far as "Do I play any instrument myself?" I didn't "skirt around" it at all, I deliberately ignored it because it was totally irrelevant to the question of objective taste which you were raising (or are you seriously saying that you as a musician can objectively define musical merit where a mere layperson can't? If you are, you've just buttressed your taste fascism with vocational elitism). If it helps the argument you never made, no, I do not play a musical instrument. I can, however, distinguish between the concepts of objectivity and subjectivity. Maybe in time you will, too.
PS: I'd be a bit cautious about that "bands who make music in a test tube" gibe (ooh, harsh, like coiled steel, would you believe)...remember, you're an Ocean Colour Scene fan, those guys were collectively born in one.
08 Aug 05
Originally posted by AmauroteDon't take me so seriously dude. I'm just a piss head with multple personalties that doesn't know wtf I'm talking about at the best of times.
Oh, Lord. Look, don't take your petty neuroses out on me, I'm not remotely interested in your apparent feelings of superiority or inferiority or both/neither towards me, nor at any point have I "poured my derision", "barraged" or claimed to have a "better command of English" than you - this silly status nonsense is all in your head, so stop being so ...[text shortened]... elieve)...remember, you're an Ocean Colour Scene fan, those guys were collectively born in one.
*chortles to one's self* 😛
08 Aug 05
Mate, we're just talking at cross-purposes, no hard feelings, the Internet will do that to a man: if it was a pub conversation we'd have changed the subject and moved on to talking about Kylie Minogue's arse three rounds ago. If it's any help, I apologise for the misunderstanding, I just thought it was banter. I have even less interest in flamewars than you do. One thing I want to be clear about - I thought we were joking, at no point was derision in my mind. Night, anyway.
08 Aug 05
Aye. It would be silly to carry on like this. My apologies for being anal. It did start as a bit of banter for me too, but I thought you, too, started getting a bit serious. As you said, if you take away the physical part of a conversation, ie, tonal inflections and body language, people can be misunderstood easily. Buenos noches. 🙂