Originally posted by radioactive69oh dear
Israel Folau was a mediocre Rugby League player. He switched to an entirely new code and was in the Australian Team automatically and is a superstar of the game.
Many very average rugby league players have code hopped to union where they became superstars. Sonny bill Williams Timana Tahu Mark Gasnier Lote Tuqiri Brad Thorn and your boy Sam Burgess t ...[text shortened]... by league side played the English union side in a game of union they'd wipe the floor with them.
more rubbish
Sonny Bill is a star of BOTH codes. Believe he played in the RL World Cup winning side for NZ while an 'average rugby league player'.
Brad Thorn represented Oz as a RL player ~ I thought the Oz RL side was made up of supermen? Find it odd as he was a 2nd row in Union, a position that would seem to have little equivalent skill set in League (don't they just give the ball up when it goes out of play in League, no line outs)
Sam Burgess, like many others, found that his RL skill set was not suited to Union. He couldn't find a position to play, and has gone back to League. His acceleration into the England Union side was a grave error by England's admin team.
That's just 3 of your 'points' without even needing google.
You avoided Sailor who was the shining superstar of Australia's RL side in late 90's /early 2000s. He switched at his peak to the 'hardly followed' Union in Oz (for some unexplained reason) and was mediocre at best. Again, skill set didnt transfer.
Last point total rubbish. In every cross code game that I have ever heard of, RL team wins easily under League rules, Union wins easily under Union. Imagine those RL forwards having to actually scrum! Ouch!
Originally posted by Blood On The TracksMy point is is that you guys are so starved of talent that any rugby league convert is almost immediately rushed into the national side.
oh dear
more rubbish
Sonny Bill is a star of BOTH codes. Believe he played in the RL World Cup winning side for NZ while an 'average rugby league player'.
Brad Thorn represented Oz as a RL player ~ I thought the Oz RL side was made up of supermen? Find it odd as he was a 2nd row in Union, a position that would seem to have little equiva ...[text shortened]... rules, Union wins easily under Union. Imagine those RL forwards having to actually scrum! Ouch!
With union converts (which are usually players who have played for their country in union) they usually peel the oranges for the reserve grade local team. None of them would go within a cooeee of getting into a national rugby league side.
Hey..........how'd your boys go in the last World cup......you know the World cup that you's hosted. I believe we had a few of your boys peeling oranges for our quarter final, semi final, and final appearance. You gotta laugh........Bwahahahahahaha !!!
Originally posted by radioactive69so, actually no engagement with my points about Sonny Bill, Thorn, Burgess and Sailor?
My point is is that you guys are so starved of talent that any rugby league convert is almost immediately rushed into the national side.
With union converts (which are usually players who have played for their country in union) they usually peel the oranges for the reserve grade local team. None of them would go within a cooeee of getting into a nat ...[text shortened]... our quarter final, semi final, and final appearance. You gotta laugh........Bwahahahahahaha !!!
hardly surprising
yep, our last World Cup was a shambles. Touched on it on the Burgess point. Certainly had a laugh as NZ dismantled you painfully in the final.
Since then we have put together the longest current unbeaten run by any top National team
Part of that was a 3 Test stuffing of some gold shirted gents in the Summer.
See ~ when I reply, I actually engage the points that you make
Try it
Originally posted by Blood On The TracksI covered that. Union were so dazzled by getting some real rugby stars that they rushed these guys straight into their national teams. Play 2 club games then wham......you there....out the way........we're filling your spot on the national team with a rugby league convert.
so, actually no engagement with my points about Sonny Bill, Thorn, Burgess and Sailor?
hardly surprising
yep, our last World Cup was a shambles. Touched on it on the Burgess point. Certainly had a laugh as NZ dismantled you painfully in the final.
Since then we have put together the longest current unbeaten run by any top National team ...[text shortened]... gents in the Summer.
See ~ when I reply, I actually engage the points that you make
Try it
Your guys are just plain dumb. At least give them a season or so of running rings around the union boys before sticking them in your national side.
To summarise..........rugby league players who convert to union are rushed into the highest levels of union. Union players who convert to league peel oranges for reserve grade players. Is that not clear ???
Originally posted by Blood On The TracksYes ......but at least we made the final. Your blokes couldn't even get past the round of 16 in a World cup played in your own country. Totally humiliating but a good laugh for the rest of us.
so, actually no engagement with my points about Sonny Bill, Thorn, Burgess and Sailor?
hardly surprising
yep, our last World Cup was a shambles. Touched on it on the Burgess point. Certainly had a laugh as NZ dismantled you painfully in the final.
Since then we have put together the longest current unbeaten run by any top National team ...[text shortened]... gents in the Summer.
See ~ when I reply, I actually engage the points that you make
Try it
Originally posted by radioactive69Sigh
I covered that. Union were so dazzled by getting some real rugby stars that they rushed these guys straight into their national teams. Play 2 club games then wham......you there....out the way........we're filling your spot on the national team with a rugby league convert.
Your guys are just plain dumb. At least give them a season or so of running r ...[text shortened]... nion players who convert to league peel oranges for reserve grade players. Is that not clear ???
No. One of your earlier 'points' was that mediocre RL players converted to Union and became superstars
You quoted Sonny Bill and Thorn. I pointed out they were not mediocre RL players. You are avoiding that.
Your facts about Sam Burgess are also incorrect
You fail to explain why RL superstar at the turn of the millenium Windell Sailor would move to such a low profile sport in Oz, then don't explain why this giant at RL was mediocre in Union (and you talk about US rushing players to national teams, Sailor was almost playing for Oz RU straight away, i think jason Robinson skipped past him when we won WC in your backyard in '03)
I don't know about Union to League . It just doesnt happen over here. Far more money/interest in Union, so players dont switch that way.
17 Nov 16
Originally posted by radioactive69but that was over a year ago.
Yes ......but at least we made the final. Your blokes couldn't even get past the round of 16 in a World cup played in your own country. Totally humiliating but a good laugh for the rest of us.
how long do you whine on about that
since then, for the 4th or 5th time, we (England) visited Oz (you) 4/5 months ago, and wiped the floor with you 3-0
are you ever going to address that humiliation, or too painful?
Originally posted by Blood On The TracksBOTT,
but that was over a year ago.
how long do you whine on about that
since then, for the 4th or 5th time, we (England) visited Oz (you) 4/5 months ago, and wiped the floor with you 3-0
are you ever going to address that humiliation, or too painful?
All this crap still belongs in the Sports forum. Are you afraid you will get torn apart in there?
-VR
17 Nov 16
Originally posted by Very Rustywhy don't you tell your pal?? Just because I posted last? If you read back on this thread, I would wager that radio has more sports based posts than me. I only joined in latterly!
BOTT,
All this crap still belongs in the Sports forum. Are you afraid you will get torn apart in there?
-VR
But, rusty, you aren't really a neutral observer, are you?
Yep. I am REALLY scared to go in the Sports Forum. Do they actually KNOW something about sport and engage argument?
21 Nov 16
Originally posted by phil3000Agreed the gayest kit evah! who pays those people?
Men wearing skirts and their nations footballers running out on English hallowed turf at Wembley wearing shocking pink .
You lot will be singing "flower of Scotland " with one hand on your hip next !π