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Emule rules!
What Emule has that no other downloading program has that I know of, is a website, with links to download stuff, so there is no need to search for years in the program like you do in Kazaa, and evertything is exactly what it says it is, not like in kazaa where I ask for faith no more clips and end up with porn 😕

Consider Emule Ravello, its much better then the rest.

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I down loaded the ''install'' but I get a blank page.
I have always this problem with .exe files HEEELP!

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Originally posted by Faith No More
Emule rules!
What Emule has that no other downloading program has that I know of, is a website, with links to download stuff, so there is no need to search for years in the program like you do in Kazaa, and evertything is exactly what it says it is, not like in kazaa where I ask for faith no more clips and end up with porn 😕

Consider Emule Ravello, its much better then the rest.
where do you get porn, errrm I mean e-mule ??

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personally i swear by winmx. films, tv shows, music/music videos comedy clips, games/software you name it . also whole motogp races f1 races, football highlights.....although not as good an interface i feel as soulseek but the material more than makes up for it. i even downloaded a whole stack of the Dukes of Hazzard

copyright? whats that 😉

i must advise though that ive had several corrupt files but after you get the knack of it you can figure what will be ok and what will likely be warped or misnamed. also you can message the user/s you are downloading from to ask whther it is the real mccoy. obviously there are idiots out there who lie but most people are genuine if you are


also consider having a look at this site.

http://bittorrent.com/

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Originally posted by The Slow Pawn
where do you get porn, errrm I mean e-mule ??
http://www.emule-project.net/

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Soulseek seems to be the best for music.

no pop ups, no spyware.

Interesting what this new crackdown means though. Is it all bluster? or are things going to start happening? They have a big brother company now monitoring internet traffic.

And the way they sell the idea that mp3s are evil is the same as the way the war on Iraq was sold. By using complete BS.

The main argument is that by illegally downloading mp3s, you're hitting small time artists in the pocket. Bull. There are quite a few small time, yet highly talented artists in Ireland, and you can't find their mp3s anywhere in the file sharing software. So, basically its the big record companies with the big contracts who are pushing to stop mp3 downloads. What does it matter to Madona if she never sells another album?

Also, since when did buying albums become all that the music industry is about. Historically, as far back as you can go, music has been about the live experience. Suddenly, its more about mass producing generic music and making as much profit as possible. I'll admit I've got a lot of mp3s, and the result of this is that I now enjoy a massive range of different types of music. I don't support them through buying their records, but if they are a real band, and still go on lots of live tours, then I'll definitely go and see them, LIVE.

That essentially, is what music is about, and to say that mp3s will cause the death of the music industry is the most absurd thing I've heard since Bliar said that London could be pile of smoking rubble within 45 minutes.

Rock on,

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I've used Kazaa a few times. It is quite good for various types of files. You do tend to get some spyware and pop ups though. You just need some software to check for this once in a while -I've not suffered anything serious yet.

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I read somewhere that the big recording industry and movie producing companies now have "dummy servers" all over the www that serve "dummy files" to try and undermine the p2p networks.
They connect to the p2p networks sharing dummy song, movie files etc.
Users who illegally download these files using whatever p2p application then get dummy or "broken" files.

By using this stategy they hope to stop some of the illegal distribution of copyrighted matetrial.

Pretty sneaky and yet so simple...

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Originally posted by Crowley
I read somewhere that the big recording industry and movie producing companies now have "dummy servers" all over the www that serve "dummy files" to try and undermine the p2p networks.
They connect to the p2p networks sharing dummy song, movie files etc.
Users who illegally download these files using whatever p2p application then get dummy or "broken ...[text shortened]... some of the illegal distribution of copyrighted matetrial.

Pretty sneaky and yet so simple...
I've not really had a problem with that so far (it would only account for about 1% of file transfers in my experience)

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There is always a big risk when downloading executables from unknown sources (and even with known sources, you cannot be sure). A dangerous file does not necessarily have to be a virus. I could write a simple application which could randomly change things in your registry and do a lot of damage. This technically would not be a virus and bypass all virus scanners. Don't worry, I don't write applications like that, but I am sure there are people out there who do such things!

My advice is to avoid file sharing of executables completely and just go for audio/video files.

Extensions especially to avoid are:

.exe (standard executables, which can contain harmful code)
.com (also standard executables, not as common as .exe these days, but still is executed by MS operating systems)
.scr (a screensaver file, but can contain harmful code)
.bat (in ASCII so you can directly read the code, might be ok if you understand the content and consider it safe)
.vb (a VB script file, can read directly without running it, therefore you could see if it is safe if you understand VB)
.reg (a registry file, very much doubt there would be any situation where you would need to download this, best to avoid completely).

There are also a vast number of other extensions that are ran by third party applications (and if you have those particular applications installed). Download these only if you really know what you are doing and you are sure that these 3rd party applications would not potentially cause any harm based on what it is running.

The potentially most dangerous ones are the .exe, .com and .scr because they are in machine code which you cannot read directly (unless you are good enough to reverse engineer it and see what it does, not really worth all the effort).

Safe ones are:

.mp3
.mpg
.jpg
.gif
.bmp
.zip (only if the compressed files do not contain the unsafe extensions as mentioned above).
Other image/audio/video files.

Lau

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Originally posted by fawcr01
See my link above... the British music industry is beginning lawsuits against 28 file-sharers today, with 459 across Europe.
Bluster, bare in mind millions, if not hundreds of millions, of people across europe use file sharing (i heard about 60% of home used broadband traffic is file sharing).... 459 is farting in a hurricane...same with any dummy sites they could put up.

Also note that in the UK, for example, while single sales have fallen (record companies do not make money on single sales, they are a promotional tool really) albums sales have risen 20% in the last few years. This is generaly attributed to the fact that people who download new songs are actually more likely to go out and buy the album if they listen and like it.

Just for the record I persoanly no longer use file sharing (did when i was a student), got fed up with all the crap that goes with it (spyware mostly) and now i can afford to buy the album I'm begining the process of buying up the music i donwloaded and liked (much better sound on a CD).

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Originally posted by Simonm
albums sales have risen 20% in the last few years. This is generaly attributed to the fact that people who download new songs are actually more likely to go out and buy the album if they listen and like it.
No ways dude, that's the argument used by alot of p2p networks.
There's no direct correlation between a certain song being downloaded and album sales.

Just shows: Anything can be proven by statistics...

I'm sure there are people who actually do this - download the song, listen to it, like it, buy the album - but most people who use p2p appliations use it to illegally download material which they don't want to buy.

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Originally posted by Crowley
No ways dude, that's the argument used by alot of p2p networks.
There's no direct correlation between a certain song being downloaded and album sales.

Just shows: Anything can be proven by statistics...

I'm sure there are people who actually do this - download the song, listen to it, like it, buy the album - but most people who use p2p appliations use it to illegally download material which they don't want to buy.
Fair enough regardless of the reasons the fact remains album sale are on the way up, and that where the record companies make most of there money at the front end (i.e. seeling direct to man on the street)

consider 2 cases
1)some one donwloads music cos they are to poor/too cheap to buy it.
Take this for example I have on my computer a song called "There She Goes" by the La's. I would not even pay 99c for it from iTunes. So I have this song and I listen to it but the artist has in fact lost nothing. The record company will say he's lost out but it's simply not true, I would not have payed for it, I'd just go without. Now for all these hardcore people who share music (1000's of MP3's) you have to ask youself if they had to pay, what would they still have it. The answer is in the large majority of cases nope.
This of course does not excuse their behavious, they are still stealing, but the record companies are trying to claim they are losing billions. They are, but it's really not got much to do with file sharing in my opnion.
Remeber album sales have gone up 20%, this means the record companies are selling more records not less since file sharing becomae big, whether the 2 are linked or not is not really relvent, you could even say, despite file sahring sales are up. This means it's clearly false to say they are all making a loss all of a sudden because of file sharing.

Case 2 - I downloaded 1 album by Pink Floyd a few years back when I was at uni, now I'm earning I own 5 albums by said band.

This is for a multitude of reasons but mainly cos Mp3's just don't cut it sound quality wise, Also i respect the artits very much and want to give them all my money (not really possible as the record company gobbles most of it but i can but try).

The Record companies are losing a lot of money and they are looking for a scapegoat, they have fought back by selling through legal download outlets that offer them near zero distribution costs, give them control over the product after it has left them (e.g. apple can change the number of autherisable computers for a track when every they feel like, what if they decide to reduce it to 1?) and given the customer a pooer product (much much lower quality) and for all of this they have offered absolutely no discount (99c a track * 10 tracks says i may as well go buy the album). And whats more they lean on the "support the Artist" clause and then pay em a rather insulting 1 or 2 c a download....

I do not use file sharing software, but I did. At one point maybe 80% music was aquired illegaly, without deleting any of that the figure is closer 40% and shrinking all the time. I've just bought loads, and loads of it is stuff i had already dowloaded. Record companies make there money off people like me who grow fed up of pissing about with p2p networks and just buy it cos it's easier and better. They don't make any money (and nor should they expect to) off a load of kids with there heads burried in the candy jar that is p2p, they'll grow up one day and spend money, just like me....

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People like me who travel alot just can't lug their CD's with them all the time. I can't remember the last time I actually opened my CD player and played a CD.
All my music is in mp3 format on my laptop, for the simple reason that now it's portable.

Now why would I pay for stuff that I can just download in the background while doing work?
This is the bottom line.

You say you would have just gone without that one song that you downloaded long ago. How many songs would that be in total for your whole mp3 collection?

CD sales may have gone up, but that figure would be much larger if p2p networks didn't exist.
More people would have bought the albums, or even compilation CD's

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I started with Napster 5 years ago, they lost a big law suit, it was shut and Kazaa was born. More and more spyware and adds came so I downloaded Kazaa Lite which I still use. A great program.

Though, if you want to download more popular music, big chance you'll get a faked one on Kazaa Lite (most people will know what I mean). WinMX is for that the ideal program, never downloaded anything that wasn't what I was looking for.

O.

EDIT: Found this list in Kazaa Lite:

Unsafe are:

.scr, .vbs, .jpg.exe, .jpg.vbs, .avi.exe, .avi.vbs, .mp3.exe, .mp3.vbs, -fulldownloader, 3-fulldwnloader, -full-downloader, -games-fulldownloader, divx-fulldownloader, 3-full-dwnloader-, -games-fulldownloader-, -games-fulldownload, pack-fully-download, .htm, .html, .url, .sys, .ini, .xml, .vbs, .js, .bat, .eml, .dbx.

You'll see that alot of double extensions are dangerous.

Oh yeah, just use WinMX, doesn't appear to have viruses and you'll have no adds at all!

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