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11 Jun 07
11 Jun 07
Originally posted by PocketKingsI already boycott citgo
Anyone else get the mass email about boycotting Exxon and Mobil (same thing really)? Its actually not that bad of an idea. I'm up for anything being that I paid $3.20 a gallon this morning. It said that the one idea going around about noboby buying gas for an entire day didn't scare the big gas boys at all, because the supply and demand would still be th ...[text shortened]... y of other gas stations around to use besides them until they would lower their prices enough.
12 Jun 07
Originally posted by cmsMasterbe careful, you may anger those mom's and suddenly you will find yourself parking mini vans and SUV's all day.
Re-read the original post.
I think boycotting is the only thing that will lower prices. The problem that you have though, PK, is that soccer moms in their SUVs will go and buy gas at Exxon/Mobile anyway because their rich husbands are paying.
12 Jun 07
Originally posted by PocketKingsDon't understand why that would make them drop prices though 😕
Anyone else get the mass email about boycotting Exxon and Mobil (same thing really)? Its actually not that bad of an idea. I'm up for anything being that I paid $3.20 a gallon this morning. It said that the one idea going around about noboby buying gas for an entire day didn't scare the big gas boys at all, because the supply and demand would still be th ...[text shortened]... y of other gas stations around to use besides them until they would lower their prices enough.
Lets say A & B supply 40% of the fuel. They get boycotted. This leaves C, D, E and F who supply 60% of fuel with 100% of the consumers, meaning that they are now unable to cope with demand.
As C, D, E and F realise they now have an overdemand they have two options
1. Increase their prices to try and slow down the demand or
2. Buy in extra supplies from a third party.
As demand increases and supply diminishes prices will rise.
To meet the demand C, D, E and F have to buy from a third party, namely A & B, who are able to command a higher price since they have a product that is in short supply and large demand.
End result everyone pays more.
12 Jun 07
Originally posted by PonderableI agree. What place have four-wheel-drive vehicles in cities where 95% of us live, other than to increase air pollution, greenhouse gases etc? If the stuff was taxed at $US100 a gallon the overpowered overengineered showoffs would have to pay the real cost of the waste and damage they cause. :'(
In fact gas is far too cheap. Why drive 2t four wheel drive vehicles to the city??? Just to show off? Say 100$/gallon would be a fair price
12 Jun 07
Originally posted by MissOleumActually, couldnt we tax it based on what car you own. Because I myself have a fairly small and economic car, but theres no way in hell that i can pay 100 per gallon, nor is there no way in hell im riding my bike to work. There could be like a teir system where cars of my size, or hybrids and better have "good" gas prices while the gas guzzeling tanks that alot of people drive could have the $100 tax.... 🙂
I agree. What place have four-wheel-drive vehicles in cities where 95% of us live, other than to increase air pollution, greenhouse gases etc? If the stuff was taxed at $US100 a gallon the overpowered overengineered showoffs would have to pay the real cost of the waste and damage they cause. :'(
12 Jun 07
Originally posted by MissOleumOh baloney! If you drive a vehicle at all, even a scooter, you are a consumer and a contributor to the pollution. If most of you would quit driving ALL forms of motorized transportation, consumption would reduce, prices would fall, pollution would decrease and I wouldn't have to listen to all of these bleeding heart liberal whiners spewing their garbage. The fact is, until they come up with a better energy source to power transportation, we are stuck with gasoline and ethanol. Electric, wind, solar are all partially viable, but not the long haul solution. Nuclear would work, but then you open up a new can of worms with disposal of the nuclear remains after the half life sets in. Steam is making a resurgance, but I am not sure it is going to be viable for a while. Everyone has his/her idea of what will work but here is a clue...you had better figure out how to control the huge population growth or all of this becomes moot. If China and India continue with asymtotic growth rates, the earth will run out of all of its resources. Food, potable water, energy, medicines...the entire enchilada. So you had better focus on the number one enemy....population growth.
I agree. What place have four-wheel-drive vehicles in cities where 95% of us live, other than to increase air pollution, greenhouse gases etc? If the stuff was taxed at $US100 a gallon the overpowered overengineered showoffs would have to pay the real cost of the waste and damage they cause. :'(
12 Jun 07
Originally posted by PocketKingsAgreed. Gas prices used to be "cheap" back in the day before I was born. Then they came to be an arm and a leg, Now...they are an arm, two legs, an eye, and half your intestines. Keep going at this rate and people would rather be decapitated before paying at the pump.
This is not about saving the planet, its about saving money. Trust me, the planet will survive gasoline.
12 Jun 07
Originally posted by AgtSmittyIs the concept of supply and demand so difficult to comprehend? I don't like the high prices either, but we create the problem. Europe has been getting screwed for years as have the other parts of the world. The US has been the leading producer of gasoline worldwide, but the US has never felt the price burden they have elsewhere in the world. The gasoline companies want the US to pay them as handsomely as they have been accustomed to everywhere else and it is pissing the US consumers off. If the consumers quit consuming, or slowed consumption down drastically, the price will drop. Unfortunately, no one seems willing to do without, they just bite their lips, pay for it and gripe.
Agreed. Gas prices used to be "cheap" back in the day before I was born. Then they came to be an arm and a leg, Now...they are an arm, two legs, an eye, and half your intestines. Keep going at this rate and people would rather be decapitated before paying at the pump.
Regarding the statement that gas used to be cheaper and now it is way too expensive, can you tell me any service that is not more expensive now than it was years ago (i.e. telephone - land line, cable tv, security monitoring, etc...)? They might reduce due to economies of scale, but the second demand approaches or exceeds supply, the price is going to go up. Whining about it won't change it.
12 Jun 07
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Originally posted by shortcircuitAre you paying 2 more dollars than you were this time last year for a gallon of milk. I'm not, its just for gas.
Is the concept of supply and demand so difficult to comprehend? I don't like the high prices either, but we create the problem. Europe has been getting screwed for years as have the other parts of the world. The US has been the leading producer of gasoline worldwide, but the US has never felt the price burden they have elsewhere in the world. The gasoli ...[text shortened]... d approaches or exceeds supply, the price is going to go up. Whining about it won't change it.
Can your post stand up by itself, it looks pretty lame.