11 May 03
Yeah, like I said, I have no real problem with your sexual preferance, it's your life after all. Maybe because they were all students and on drugs and/or drunk all the time, they acted like they did. Just not my cup of tea. I fell for the Hollywood image of gay people and had some better expectations of them.
I think I just misunderstood the chicken's 1st post. He meant there should be equal amounts of men and woman, be they homo- or heterosexual.
11 May 03
Originally posted by belgianfreakI disagree.People can't understand.It is not pre-justice.it is fear.
one reason prejudice occurs is because you have 1 bad experience and then assosiate that type of person with the bad experience. eg. I get mugged by the first asian I see, I then assosiate all asians with being violent theives. If I have known 5 asians then I think that asians are more likely to be muggers than other races. If you have a limited exposur ...[text shortened]... r accepting & firendly, maybe because they have likely known what it is like to not be accepted.
11 May 03
Originally posted by CrowleyI don't see what that has to do with their sexuality! While your comments may be accurate, the way you phrase them suggests you are judging these people more negatively because of pre-conceived opinions.
Yeah, like I said, I have no real problem with your sexual preferance, it's your life after all. Maybe because they were all students and on drugs and/or drunk all the time, they acted like they did. Just not my cup of tea. I fell for the Hollywood image of gay people and had some better expectations of them.
I think I just misunderstood the chicken's 1st post. He meant there should be equal amounts of men and woman, be they homo- or heterosexual.
11 May 03
Originally posted by belgianfreakOne cause of it is fear/hatred of that which is different. Another is lack of understanding. Suppose, for example, you invited a Jewish friend over for dinner and served pork; then he would refuse to eat it on religious grounds. However, if you were ignorant of Judaism, you might think, "He's just making that up. Maybe he just thinks my cooking is rubbish, but doesn't want to tell me to my face." Such misunderstandings over personal practices can have bad consequences, let alone over more general beliefs and traditions.
one reason prejudice occurs is because you have 1 bad experience and then assosiate that type of person with the bad experience. eg. I get mugged by the first asian I see, I then assosiate all asians with being violent theives. If I have known 5 asians then I think that asians are more likely to be muggers than other races. If you have a limited exposur ...[text shortened]... r accepting & firendly, maybe because they have likely known what it is like to not be accepted.
12 May 03
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Originally posted by AcolyteYes, I had some preconceptions, but good ones (if that can be).
I don't see what that has to do with their sexuality! While your comments may be accurate, the way you phrase them suggests you are judging these people more negatively because of pre-conceived opinions.
Like I said before, I thought (from the media and my limited exposure to them) that they were generally friendlier more accepting people etc.
But after living with a few of them for a year, I changed my mind.
Unfortunately this is the only group of gay people I'm in contact with, so obviously they will greatly affect my general opinions of gay people, in this instance, in a negative sense.
12 May 03
Originally posted by ebrillagood point. I did only say that one source of prejudice was preconceptions from limited exposure. There is also very obviously fear of anything we don't inderstand and that is different. This reflex is very natural to an animal, it helps to keep it alive, but as rational beings we should strive to overcome it.
I disagree.People can't understand.It is not pre-justice.it is fear.
12 May 03
Originally posted by belgianfreakI don't think such an instinct is necessarily bad; for example, you might be wary of a new technology until you are convinced that its benefits outweigh the potential hazards. If you knew nothing about Islam, you might fear it encouraged Muslims to do something bad. It is impossible to discount this unless you know something about Islam. A combination of ignorance and unwillingness to learn is not necessary for intolerance, but it is certainly sufficient.
good point. I did only say that one source of prejudice was preconceptions from limited exposure. There is also very obviously fear of anything we don't inderstand and that is different. This reflex is very natural to an animal, it helps to keep it alive, but as rational beings we should strive to overcome it.
13 May 03
Originally posted by Acolyteyes, and when the first thing you learn about Islam is that some Islamic militants (who are so far from the teachings of Islam it's unreal) just flew 2 planes into the twin towers then unfortunatly the natural reation is that all Islamics are a dangerous cult that are trying to kill us.
I don't think such an instinct is necessarily bad; for example, you might be wary of a new technology until you are convinced that its benefits outweigh the potential hazards. If you knew nothing about Islam, you might fear it encouraged Muslims to do something bad. It is impossible to discount this unless you know something about Islam. A combina ...[text shortened]... nce and unwillingness to learn is not necessary for intolerance, but it is certainly sufficient.
Experiencing things for yourself, doing your own research & remembering that every news report, book, or personal account is being told from only one point of view are essential to form a rounded opinion, and not just to be fed the common view, promote understanding & prevent prejudices. In my view anyway.
13 May 03
Originally posted by belgianfreakI contest this.
yes, and when the first thing you learn about Islam is that some Islamic militants (who are so far from the teachings of Islam it's unreal) just flew 2 planes into the twin towers
I have read endlessly about how Islam is a "profoundly peaceful" religion, that the fanatics are "misinterpreting" Islam.
I think they are doing just the opposite.
The Koran is a very violent book.
It tells muslims to cut the heads off infidels, to beat their wives, to kill the unbeleiver wherever they find him, to fight (jihad) for an Islamic state wherever in the world they live, etc, etc.
So, one might argue that the extremists are taking the Koran literally.
Now, usually when I say this, someone retaliates with "it's no worse than christianity". To which I pretty much agree. However, christians stopped burning witches centuries ago to the best of my knowledge.
Sorry, but I just don't think all dislike/hatred of something is due to ignorance. For instance, I was indifferent to Islam (I believed it was essentially peaceful) until I actually read about it myself. Now I think it's primitive and violent.