05 Apr 21
@very-rusty saidHave you had either of your shots as yet?
If your flag is correct there are a 100 million of your people who have been vaccinated already. You must be considered low priority?
05 Apr 21
@divegeester saidJust what I have been saying..
[I’ll try again 🤪]
Don’t hold your breath. Stand by for “new variants” which are “vaccine resistant”. It’s as though nobody knew that coronaviruses, such as the common cold, muted sometimes dozens of times a year. COVID-19 will be with us forever and I will not be getting jabbed on a regular basis.
Seems strange vaccinating folk under 70 who have a 99.95% survival rate if they get the virus.
05 Apr 21
@divegeester saidNo, I had explained that in another thread I believe that we had a shipment due for here went somewhere else where it was needed more. They are trying to get all the front line works vaccinated first as I believe they should, and older people with conditions. Even considering my past medical history there are those who need it more. A shipment is due in this month and more in May. I am assuming we will be into fall before a good percentage of our people have been vaccinated.
Have you had either of your shots as yet?
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05 Apr 21
@kevin-eleven saidYou are right. You make your bed, you sleep in it.
I'm not an anti-vaxxer but I am concerned about this one. What if I have already had a mild case of Covid and my system is primed to overreact when it gets the first shot? I thought the idea in medicine was to at least do no harm. Maybe it's just a very small fraction of vaccine recipients who have serious problems with the vax, but there seem to be too many cases where the prevention is worse than just leaving things alone and taking one's chances.
05 Apr 21
@great-big-stees saidI don't think right now we have a choice on which one we get it is getting something right now which is better than nothing. I am concerned about my niece who is an LPN and she says she isn't having any of them. Something about it changing a person's DNA. She actually works with patients who have the virus and also has a family. I wish they would make it mandatory for all front line workers to get a shot then she'd have no choice.
You are right. You make your bed, you sleep in it.
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05 Apr 21
@the-gravedigger saidAnd a good chance of passing it to someone else.
Seems strange vaccinating folk under 70 who have a 99.95% survival rate if they get the virus.
05 Apr 21
@handyandy saidThat is a very good possibility Andy!
And a good chance of passing it to someone else.
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05 Apr 21
@the-gravedigger saidI don’t think I’ll be having the second jab, too many side effects which I didn’t expect.
Just what I have been saying..
Seems strange vaccinating folk under 70 who have a 99.95% survival rate if they get the virus.
Also I’m not impressed with all the rhetoric about six monthly or at least annual jabs. Also not impressed by the uk government flip-flopping on release of restrictions, and the pressure to have further vaccinations and a certificate just to go to the pub.
05 Apr 21
@divegeester saidWill the first vaccine have any effect if you don't follow up with a second?
I don’t think I’ll be having the second jab, too many side effects which I didn’t expect.
Also I’m not impressed with all the rhetoric about six monthly or at least annual jabs. Also not impressed by the uk government flip-flopping on release of restrictions, and the pressure to have further vaccinations and a certificate just to go to the pub.
05 Apr 21
@torunn saidIt will have some effect. I think people are overlooking that at the height of the second wave they thought almost one in every fifty people in the UK had the virus in their body. That means for one in every fifty of the millions vaccinated this was already a second exposure to viral proteins. So the second exposure is to some extent tried and tested. I do feel a bit coerced by the passport thing though. Getting back into football grounds is definitely in my thinking.
Will the first vaccine have any effect if you don't follow up with a second?
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So on the public-health side, is the thinking still that even if the vax does not prevent infection or becoming contagious, one would be less contagious post-vax if ever infected (i.e., would be a less efficient production site for the virus and less of a spreader)?
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05 Apr 21
@kevin-eleven saidThat is what I read, yes.
So on the public-health side, is the thinking still that even if the vax does not prevent infection or becoming contagious, one would be less contagious post-vax if ever infected (i.e., would be a less efficient production site for the virus and less of a spreader)?
However, although the theory is sound, it is based on assumptions about COVID19 and how it transmits. We know it’s highly infectious so maybe it won’t make any difference.
@divegeester saidI believe many people around the world have those same concerns, and virus continues to mutate into new forms that the vaccine doesn't work on.
That is what I read, yes.
However, although the theory is sound, it is based on assumptions about COVID19 and how it transmits. We know it’s highly infectious so maybe it won’t make any difference.
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@very-rusty saidAs of a few weeks ago, it was reported that 30 or 40% of the staff at one of our local medical centers did not plan to get the vaccine. Surprising that the medical center did not give them a choice between the vaccine or finding another job.
I don't think right now we have a choice on which one we get it is getting something right now which is better than nothing. I am concerned about my niece who is an LPN and she says she isn't having any of them. Something about it changing a person's DNA. She actually works with patients who have the virus and also has a family. I wish they would make it mandatory for all front line workers to get a shot then she'd have no choice.
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Also strange to read that some percentage in the US armed forces are choosing not to get the vaccine. Surprising that they even have a choice. When I enlisted (decades ago), I got some injections up front. They didn't ask me if that would be okay.
Edit: On a side note, I think the US armed forces were involved in the development of the MMR (mumps, measles, rubella) vaccine that also benefitted the general populace.