17 Jan 09
Originally posted by wormwoodI've read a lot on the subject, and I believe in global warming.. I was playing the devil's advocate.
that's what we thought in the 90s. then the records kept being broken year after year. stuff that happens once in 50 or 100 years started happening year by year. - the last time the sea didn't freeze was in the 60s I believe, now it looks like it's gonna be the second year in a row. and even before that the need for ice breakers had drastically declined, th ...[text shortened]... l[/i] the numerous long time weather records broken here 2000+ are just normal oscillation.
But no chance in hell? Subtle changes will be the norm over the next 50 years most likely, you have to agree.
However, what I've seen and read about fossil fuel burning out of control is definitely a force that's unseen by most these days.
17 Jan 09
Originally posted by ivan2908we have hot summers, the sun shines almost 24/7 even here in the south. in the north the sun doesn't set at all for two months or so.
It seems like global warming started to show its consequences by far faster rate then anticipated. And that's not good. But on bright side, sea in Finland could be enough warm to swim in it during summer. 😛
17 Jan 09
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Originally posted by SmookiePI don't. because when you bring more energy into any thermodynamic system, the extremes increase fast, but balance each other almost out on average. which is exactly what we've experienced. the droughts are more severe, the rains greater, warm winters warmer, summer heat waves more fierce, storms greater and more frequent etc etc. - the average temperature rises only slightly, but the extremes increase exponentially. I wouldn't be surprised if we got the coldest winter in 100 years in the next few years.
Subtle changes will be the norm over the next 50 years most likely, you have to agree.
you can try it out by warming up water on a stove. first there is slow controlled convection, then as the heat goes up there will be increasingly more oscillation, until the system jumps into total chaos in just a few degrees. the changes are not linear, that's not the nature of these kind of systems.
17 Jan 09
A strange thing about this weather change. Here in North Dakota our summers are cooler with a lot of rain. We can grow things that we'd never have dreamed we could grow when I was a young girl. Our winters were milder until this year. And now this frigid spell! But, still not the severe weather of the 1930's. So we are benefitting from it. Just a side-note. We have the most sunshine of any state in the union no matter what Florida claims! We can have a downpour of rain and minutes later the sun comes out. Gorgeous evening rainbows....sometimes in triplicate!
18 Jan 09
Originally posted by yo its mestop buying into that lie...
do you think it's global warming?
the Earth's climate is going through a transition that it experiences about every 10,000 years (in which it endures a global glacial period - or... an "ice age"😉...
the last major "ice age" was 20,000 years ago... the Earth is DUE for another...
there was a minor ice age only a few hundreds of years ago...
ironically; a typical precursor to an ice age is what the media has labeled as "global warming"
periods of increased warming during the "hot" seasons; followed by extended "cold" seasons...
so get ready; cause our winters WILL get longer 🙂