05 Jun 07
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Originally posted by Frank BurnsNah when you're 14 you hope to die before you're 30.
And your post about being an capatilist a-hole when you turn 40, did it occur to you that you may well be 40 years old some time? It comes around pretty fast and when it does...
When you get to 29 and a half you decide it was a slight miscalculation.
05 Jun 07
Originally posted by Frank BurnsI got fifteen years to go there Frank.
No you weren't. You may have chosen to be one but you were not born one.
And your post about being an capatilist a-hole when you turn 40, did it occur to you that you may well be 40 years old some time? It comes around pretty fast and when it does...
I am sure I will not be an anarchist when I get there (I'll be too tired to fight) and I will totally be assimilated by capitalists or worse be an advocate of capitalism.
That's how it goes.
There's another saying "You're dumb if you're not a communist when you are 17, you're even dumber when you're not a capitalalist by the age of 40."
Or something like that. Basically, you're a rebel when you are 17 and you get tired of rebelling when 40.
05 Jun 07
Think about the elimination of the state; the provision of law enforcement, courts, national defense, and all other security services by voluntarily-funded competitors in a free market rather than by taxation; the complete deregulation of nonintrusive personal and economic activities; and a self-regulated market!
Think about there's one state on earth!
What an utopia!
05 Jun 07
Originally posted by pawnhandlerOversimplification, generalization and stereotyping can be deceiving.
So then is it safe to assume that you have no wife or girlfriend or children? Because if there are no rulers then there are no rules ...
However, you're oversimpification is plain non-sense.
05 Jun 07
Originally posted by GinoJHow is it nonsense? How can there be rules if there is no one in charge to enforce them and write them? And if there are no rules, how can you keep your wife and children safe? I look forward to hearing how it is nonsense as well as your answer to these questions.
Oversimplification, generalization and stereotyping can be deceiving.
However, you're oversimpification is plain non-sense.
05 Jun 07
Originally posted by pawnhandlerYou're thinking with a capitalist mind, you'll never be able to understand even I wrote a fity page essay in answering your questions.
How is it nonsense? How can there be rules if there is no one in charge to enforce them and write them? And if there are no rules, how can you keep your wife and children safe? I look forward to hearing how it is nonsense as well as your answer to these questions.
You're stuck at Matrix.
05 Jun 07
Originally posted by GinoJJust to touch on one of the ideas proffered here, please expand on "..national defense....(provided) by voluntarily funded competitors in a free market...". With the state eliminated, what 'nations' will need defending and from whom? If Bill Gates wants to fund a security service and the Saudis have their own, won't you have a conflict between corporate entities. Most of us won't have much of a say in our 'security' or national defense.
Think about the elimination of the state; the provision of law enforcement, courts, national defense, and all other security services by voluntarily-funded competitors in a free market rather than by taxation; the complete deregulation of nonintrusive personal and economic activities; and a self-regulated market!
Think about there's one state on earth!
What an utopia!
I think your idea of anarchy is beyond silliness. You may want to spend some time around another anarchist, Shavixmir, for example, and see what happens when worlds collide.
Cheers!
05 Jun 07
Originally posted by GinoJI don't know what Matrix is; if it's referring to a movie, I never saw that one. You have no idea what I'm capable of understanding because you have made no attempt to answer any question of mine. So let's start again.
You're thinking with a capitalist mind, you'll never be able to understand even I wrote a fity page essay in answering your questions.
You're stuck at Matrix.
If there is no state, then there is no national defense because there is nothing to defend and no one to defend it from.
If there is no state, then where do the laws come from that the law enforcement is enforcing and that involve the courts?
06 Jun 07
Originally posted by GinoJThat sounds pretty capitalist to me. You will indeed have a ruler in such a world: Wal-MicrosoftNBC/Viacom-Mart. And you won't get to vote for the CEO.
Think about the elimination of the state; the provision of law enforcement, courts, national defense, and all other security services by voluntarily-funded competitors in a free market rather than by taxation; the complete deregulation of nonintrusive personal and economic activities; and a self-regulated market!
Think about there's one state on earth!
What an utopia!
06 Jun 07
Originally posted by pawnhandlerIf ten people live in a house together, they could vote on certain rules. Lets say they vote to impose a $10 fine on anyone who doesn't flush the toilet after they use it. If one person breaks the rule it's then up to the remaining nine to enforce the punishment. Are there any rulers in this scenario?
How is it nonsense? How can there be rules if there is no one in charge to enforce them and write them? And if there are no rules, how can you keep your wife and children safe? I look forward to hearing how it is nonsense as well as your answer to these questions.
06 Jun 07
Originally posted by jebrydzaginDuring the Spanish Civil War, the anarchist militias we among the more effective fighting units on the Republican side. Large parts of the agricultural and industrial sectors were collectivized and run by the rank and file members. They managed to fight the fascists for three years like this before finally being defeated.
Just to touch on one of the ideas proffered here, please expand on "..national defense....(provided) by voluntarily funded competitors in a free market...". With the state eliminated, what 'nations' will need defending and from whom? If Bill Gates wants to fund a security service and the Saudis have their own, won't you have a conflict between corporat ...[text shortened]... anarchist, Shavixmir, for example, and see what happens when worlds collide.
Cheers!