Originally posted by Kingsize-BishopI usually have 3 motivations for not resigning:
I'm really very curious why too many players in the Red Hot Pawn make the choice for playing on in completely hopeless
positions or clearly lost positions. From aducational point of view: I honestly don't think that you will learn more from this than
starting a new game would do. I'm actualy rather certain than the opposite is very much the ca ...[text shortened]...
Lets make the Red Hot Pawn an even beter place to stay!
The best possible, if possible ;-)
a) It's a friendly game, and I'm playing more for the chatting aspect than the chess one.
b) I'm playing against a REALLY high rated playr (2000+) and I want to see how many moves I can last
c) I'm hoping for stalemate. I've been dumb enough to do it, so why shouldn't other people be too?
Angie
Originally posted by Kingsize-BishopIf I think I can irritate someone by playing on well after the cheese has setted, then I will.
I'm really very curious why too many players in the Red Hot Pawn make the choice for playing on in completely hopeless
positions or clearly lost positions. From aducational point of view: I honestly don't think that you will learn more from this than
starting a new game would do. I'm actualy rather certain than the opposite is very much the ca ...[text shortened]...
Lets make the Red Hot Pawn an even beter place to stay!
The best possible, if possible ;-)
If I reckon someone is very nice, I'll resign, even if I'm winning.
Nothing like a system to screw with!
Originally posted by rbmorrisI don't expect anyone to resign to me if I'm in a much better position for the simple reason that it would bring complacency to my game and from that complacency, the risk of me losing concentration and making a blunder increrases. If he resigns, fine. If not, I can practice my checkmating skills. It's his right to play on, and anyone thinking of telling the guy to resign because you think you are in a winning position (even if it is true) is arrogant.
No resigning a hopelessly lost position is disrespectful to your opponent. It's basically saying, "I know I'm down, but I think there's a good chance that you'll make a ridiculously stupid blunder and throw away the game.". Resigning shows that you have respect for your opponent's skill and judgement.
I don't buy this "disrespecting the opponent" argument. The only respect on the chessboard is whether you are able to checkmate the guy or not, and it has to be earned, (or maybe I could salvage a draw). I'm not going to give it away unless I have the feeling that he knows what he's doing when I'm in a losing position.
Originally posted by Hand of HecateOops i managed to recommend that instead of replying.
I assure you that my story was shear brilliance. Its not my fault that you're an inbred cretin with no appreciation for fine literature.
Fine literature.. so tell me, when is it being published?
Silly me for not realising you're right up there with Wordsworth & Shakespeare
Inbred cretin???? Don't judge everyone by your own standards
Well I will resign if I expect that it is just a piece of work for the opponent (though not on a lst move) or if I am narrow on time and other games are more rewarding.
I never ask my opponent to resign, since it is his/her decision even if Iam tempted sometimes, but then I have lost a game with a rook and three pawns against a rook....
Depends on my mood and opponent. I'm not opposed to playing till the end, nor of fairly resigning.
At my level (1300-1400is) games are still filled with blunders. Why resign early when my opponent may return the favor of giving me a piece just like I gave him. It happens.
And then there is playing for the draw....or playing for perpetual check.
The stronger my opponent, the less likely I am to hope for the best. I have won games, though, where I had considered resigning earlier.
And yes, I have been frustrated by games where I clearly was winning, and yet the player was able to drag the game on and on.
And yes, I have been frustrated by folks who resign immediately after losing a piece....or losing their queen.
Many times I just ask "would you like me to resign"?
There are no rules...only opinions.
Nonny
I must admit I am guilty of not resigning when requested. Not that it is an excuse, but I was oblivious to the first two requests made (at move 20 and 21 in Game 1399900) and did not even look at the comments made by my opponent.
I certainly did not mean to be "very rude" as my opponent suggested, but rather it was my lack of understanding of the game. I admit to being a novice only having just taken up the game.
I must also admit feeling intimidated after the final request.
What are your thoughts on my game, would it have been more polite to resign earlier?
Game 1399900
Originally posted by DOlivier2004Bingo. I've had way too many people resign the game immediately after bumbling away their queen. What this results in is people who don't know how to play without the queen. I've had games where I won the queen through their oversight and then lost mine to the same type of bumbling 5 moves later.
I don't expect anyone to resign to me if I'm in a much better position for the simple reason that it would bring complacency to my game and from that complacency, the risk of me losing concentration and making a blunder increrases. If he resigns, fine. If not, I can practice my checkmating skills. It's his right to play on, and anyone thinking of ...[text shortened]... it away unless I have the feeling that he knows what he's doing when I'm in a losing position.
Because we are humans, and not robots, mistakes can be made at any point in the game. That being said, I will resign games when it's obvious I have no chance to win, and that point comes sooner than later in some games. And as you say, if it's obvious my opponent is so much better than me, in that he's making no mistakes and is beating me solidly through skill, as opposed to my bumbling, then I will resign sooner. I think it is exactly this reason why people feel you should resign earlier against them, because those who get offended by you playing on obviously feel that they are so much more superior to you that it should be obvious (even to a patzer like you) that you should bow to their obvious superiority, and are thus offended that you don't acknowledge their "superiority"... so yes, I agree, arrogance can be a factor in their attitude.
I am not bothered one wit by people who won't resign. I take it merely as them saying I don't buy it, so show me... prove to me you can beat me. And it never bothers me to do so... 🙂