@ponderable saidYou’re just getting yourself mixed up with with you see, and what has actually happened when you watch a sunrise.
So at least in Germany "Sonnenufgang" is defined, when you observe the sun coming over the horizon, that the incoming light is actually a bit dated at that time is not of relevance.
Since the sun is emitting the light in all directions (quai) homogenously. The light is alredy 8 minutes travelling, but is arrives directly at the sunrise time.
@suzianne saidWell… I’m not sure that that is entirely accurate.
Gravity bends light. The more gravity you have, the more the light bends.
and
Light doesn't need a vacuum to "get bent" (refract).
David Burton has a good question; how can light with no mass be bent by gravity.
The answer is along the lines of … gravity warps space and therefore impacts the lines of direction along which light can travel. Light itself is not affected by gravity.
It’s something like that.
Regarding car headlights and the speed of light, I recall an old wise warning in driving school, and it was that we should never overdrive our headlights.
Who says we can't go faster than the speed of light? In light of imagination we can leave light standing still..... warp drive. Just warped imagination?
Just another theory, as far as not being able to travel faster than light. If man can imagine it, it can be done..... some day. But on that day we will not be able to see the light of day, as it will always be in the past, trying to catch up.
Light is indeed amazing for those who can see it directly, and not as mere reflection.
@divegeester saidNah you are to far to the right for me and a royalist,we have a different perspective on life and have no common denominator in humour or music.you are far to vanilla for me.
I’m a Sagan fan too! I have Cosmos on VHS somewhere in the loft.
You know, despite all the forum stuff, I think we’d get on pretty well in real life.
@david-burton saidI’m not far right, I’m not a Royalist, i have the same “perspective on life” as most people including yourself. Everyone loves vanilla.
Nah you are to far to the right for me and a royalist,we have a different perspective on life and have no common denominator in humour or music.you are far to vanilla for me.
@divegeester saidyou see your quasi- parochial lifestyle as virtuous,I see it as safe
I’m not far right, I’m not a Royalist, i have the same “perspective on life” as most people including yourself. Everyone loves vanilla.
@david-burton saidWhat are you on about? 😄
you see your quasi- parochial lifestyle as virtuous,I see it as safe
@divegeester saidExactly.you personify the status quo( they would be to rock n roll your more ELO or Queen or Elton)
What are you on about? 😄
@david-burton saidAre you upset with me again David.
Exactly.you personify the status quo( they would be to rock n roll your more ELO or Queen or Elton)
@divegeester saidMy old nemesis at one point or other you get everyone upset with you, to put it VERY Politely. 🙂
Are you upset with me again David.
-VR
@very-rusty saidI’m sure David Burton can answer for himself Rusty.
My old nemesis at one point or other you get everyone upset with you, to put it VERY Politely. 🙂
-VR
And I’m not your nemesis; you wish 😆
@divegeester saidNah just pointing out that we are poles apart....you adored the Beatles me the Stones you pop & soft rock I am progressive blues,you liked Friends and I liked the end of the fixxxng world.
Are you upset with me again David.
@david-burton saidI don’t think we are poles apart; you’re making assumptions here.
Nah just pointing out that we are poles apart....you adored the Beatles me the Stones you pop & soft rock I am progressive blues,you liked Friends and I liked the end of the fixxxng world.
I’m a Stones fan over the Beatles; Floyd, Zeppelin, Free, Hendrix. And I also like ELO and whatever music takes my fancy.
Anyway, is musical taste such a divider or people in your mind?
@divegeester saidYup you're my nemesis for sure and reason I left Metallica! 😛
I’m sure David Burton can answer for himself Rusty.
And I’m not your nemesis; you wish 😆
Not a doubt in mind old chap!
-VR