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Originally posted by Sickboy

My advice to you, is if you want to check it out, download the free VMWare server. Install that onto Windows and then simply install Ubuntu into a Virtual Machine. Mind you, the GUI inside the VM will be a little bit "jumpy" because it's in a VM but it's a great way to "try before you buy". And you don't even have to burn an install CD then. The VM let ...[text shortened]... e. If you aren't interested then, dump the VM, uninstall VMWare and no damage done.
Surely a LiveCD is easier to do and makes more sense than installing a virtual machine?

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Originally posted by Crowley
Eh?
The software doesn't believe the platform it runs on exists? Or maybe does not believe any other platform exists?

Surely you mean [b]platform independent
.[/b]
I myself am a platform atheist. I don't believe software exist at all.

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Originally posted by Crowley
Surely a LiveCD is easier to do and makes more sense than installing a virtual machine?
Not only is it easier to burn and use a live-CD, but it's also much faster than
a virtual machine.

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Originally posted by stocken
You can start off by trying a live-disc system. You download it, burn it
to a disc and boot your computer from the CD/DVD-drive. You'll know
then if your computer is supported (all the drivers exist) and you can try
it out without actually uninstalling windows. If you like it, there's usually
an install program that will make it very easy for you to ...[text shortened]... in the ones used for
desktop purposes:

http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php
Escellent post! Thank you so much!! This removes one of my main concerns about making this move. Thank you 🙂

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Originally posted by Wheely
Used it since '95.

Windows will be easier because you know it but I have one Windows machine at the office which I find completely illogical and totally irritating so to some extent it's what you are used to.

To directly address your needs though, web surfing is fine using firefox. Image editing is pretty good these days too. "The Gimp" is very powe ...[text shortened]... ose anything. Just be aware that it IS different than what you are used to.
With regards to the recording applications, i'm not bothered about going through a learning curve. My studio is running Logic which is no longer supported on Windows so i either have to learn to use cubase (or some alternative) or simply convert to Linux with the same situation. My studio is currently packed up as i don't have room for it in my current house but when i do get it up and running again i'm keen to set it up on Linux (should i find that this jump won't be restrictive to my other PC needs...)

The graphics manipulation is only something i tinker with so i wouldn't be totally lost without it. My main concerns are that i will be limiting my potential by going with a 'new' OS (or should i say a 'non main stream' OS)..

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Originally posted by Marinkatomb
With regards to the recording applications, i'm not bothered about going through a learning curve. My studio is running Logic which is no longer supported on Windows so i either have to learn to use cubase (or some alternative) or simply convert to Linux with the same situation. My studio is currently packed up as i don't have room for it in my current h ...[text shortened]... miting my potential by going with a 'new' OS (or should i say a 'non main stream' OS)..
I think you'll be impressed with the studio software available on Linux. I know I was. I tried setting up a studio on linux about six years ago and pretty much gave up. Then, last years, as I was bored, I thought I'd give it another go and was blown away with the quality of the applications that are around now. However, generally, the apps don't come pre-installed though I believe there is one distribution dedicated to music software.

The learning curve I referred to was the learning curve of building applications from source. In order to get some of these apps, you are going to have to build them but it isn't as bad a sit seems.

Even "The Gimp" is worth building from scratch as the current development version (only available as source code) includes a healing tool, perspective constrained clone tool and an effort at colour management.

Linux is often more innovative than Windows and often has features long before but generally, you need to find the applications and build them if you want cutting edge. The only thing that is a bind is that new hardware tends not to have linux drivers included so you have to wait a bit for someone to get around to writing one.

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Originally posted by Wheely
I think you'll be impressed with the studio software available on Linux. I know I was. I tried setting up a studio on linux about six years ago and pretty much gave up. Then, last years, as I was bored, I thought I'd give it another go and was blown away with the quality of the applications that are around now. However, generally, the apps don't come pre- linux drivers included so you have to wait a bit for someone to get around to writing one.
What is the score with VST softsynths and the like. Are there any available? Can i use the ones i have already?? (This might be wishful thinking but i've gotta ask...) 🙂

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Originally posted by Crowley
Eh?
The software doesn't believe the platform it runs on exists? Or maybe does not believe any other platform exists?

Surely you mean [b]platform independent
.[/b]
those terms are synonymous.

http://www.e-consultancy.com/knowledge/glossary/20312/platform-agnostic.html


platform agnostic
Description Anything that doesn't depend on a particular computing platform. For example, a web page is platform agnostic, because all major computing systems have a web browser.

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Originally posted by Sickboy
those terms are synonymous.

http://www.e-consultancy.com/knowledge/glossary/20312/platform-agnostic.html


platform agnostic
Description Anything that doesn't depend on a particular computing platform. For example, a web page is platform agnostic, because all major computing systems have a web browser.
That is the most ridiculous thing I have read in years. And I've been reading this General Forum for a few years now.

What was wrong with the term platform independent? It's descriptive and has been in use for ages.
I believe agnostic is only used in spiritual or religious context? So it makes absolutely no sense to use it in the platform independent context.

Platform Agnostic.
Ridiculous.

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Originally posted by Crowley


Platform Agnostic.
Ridiculous.
I agree - it doesn't make as much sense as independent.

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I remember being just like you a few months ago. I used to think Linux was just for hackers and computer enthusiasts (even though Linux has turned me into a bit of one). But I learned that anyone can use it with a little patience. If you go into it thinking "This is going to be hard! I'll never learn to use it properly!" then it won't work for you. But be open minded, and don't panic when problems arise. You'll have a lot of fun with Linux once you dive in, especially if your hardware's a bit dated like mine. It feels like you just got a brand new computer.

On that note, what are you comp's specs like? There are several beginner friendly versions of Linux that are suited to different hardware capabilities.

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Originally posted by slickhare
I remember being just like you a few months ago. I used to think Linux was just for hackers and computer enthusiasts (even though Linux has turned me into a bit of one). But I learned that anyone can use it with a little patience. If you go into it thinking "This is going to be hard! I'll never learn to use it properly!" then it won't work for you. But be ...[text shortened]... beginner friendly versions of Linux that are suited to different hardware capabilities.
I might not have been clear enough. I know how to use Linux for shell scripting. I've worked as a web developer and have used it on a webserver. This was a few years ago now so i'll probably have forgotten a heap of stuff but the point i was trying to make is that i want to use it on my home PC where I want to use it for standard home computing things. I don't really want to have to spend lots of time fiddling around with my OS, i want one that doesn't require constant tweaking (like XP, something that you install, configure and then leave alone...). My previous experience of running Linux on a home PC left me working mainly in command line which is not really what i'm looking for (obviously)...

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Originally posted by Marinkatomb
I might not have been clear enough. I know how to use Linux for shell scripting. I've worked as a web developer and have used it on a webserver. This was a few years ago now so i'll probably have forgotten a heap of stuff but the point i was trying to make is that i want to use it on my home PC where I want to use it for standard home computing things. I ...[text shortened]... t me working mainly in command line which is not really what i'm looking for (obviously)...
Ubuntu is your best bet. It works right out of the box. How good are your comp specs though? If you're running on a slower computer, you may want to go with Xubuntu instead (a more lightweight version of the same distro, better suited to lower end pc's), and eventually Fluxbuntu (faster, but a little harder to get used to). The 'buntus are more graphically driven than "traditional" linux. so much so that purists and elitists often blast it for being "too easy". but Ubuntu is capable of letting you ignore the command line altogether and working perfectly (although, you may want to do some minor tweaks through it, but tutorials on the subjects abound, so all you'll have to do is copy and paste), or utilizing it as a powerful tool if you so please. With Ubuntu and it's variants, there are always tutorials, helpful programs, or just friendly people who can guide you through and problems that may arise.

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Linux is pretty good, one of my first posts here was on Fedora. Fedora Core is a good distro (Linux versions are called distros) to get you started, but keep at least a dual-boot.

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Originally posted by slickhare
Ubuntu is your best bet. It works right out of the box. How good are your comp specs though? If you're running on a slower computer, you may want to go with Xubuntu instead (a more lightweight version of the same distro, better suited to lower end pc's), and eventually Fluxbuntu (faster, but a little harder to get used to). The 'buntus are more graphically ...[text shortened]... rograms, or just friendly people who can guide you through and problems that may arise.
The question I'd have to ask is why you moved to linux ?

If you wanted a semi-proprietry OS that can only be controlled by the GUI and that has been patched to death so the only way you can upgrade things is via the vendor why not just stick with Windows?

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for expanding Linux usage but get a little frustrated at distributions that patch and modify the OS so it becomes a close to Windows as they can get it. I can't see why anybody would bother moving from Windows in this case.

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