LOST: Grand Finale

Originally posted by darvlay
So all they had and all that mattered was each other? Is that the message?

Yes. Love is everything, we are everything to eachother, blah, blah, blah. It was mentioned that one didn't have to believe in God or heaven to buy the ending either. The "end" is up to interpretation and the church and light was simply the most recognizable symbols (a little predictable for me). I would have preferred something else.

Also, Matthew Fox said that the island represented a life "test" for each person. Some didn't pass, like Ben, and didn't get to go to the party.

I still can't figure out the polar bears.

I guess it's time for me to rent "The Wire".

Originally posted by Sunburnt
Yes. Love is everything, we are everything to eachother, blah, blah, blah. It was mentioned that one didn't have to believe in God or heaven to buy the ending either. The "end" is up to interpretation and the church and light was simply the most recognizable symbols (a little predictable for me). I would have preferred something else.

Also, Matthew F ...[text shortened]... ill can't figure out the polar bears.

I guess it's time for me to rent "The Wire".

I've read it was some kind of purgatory/limbo and sounds consistent with what you're saying. Be what it was, if it was some "test" how can it be "real"?

Originally posted by Sunburnt
Yes. Love is everything, we are everything to eachother, blah, blah, blah. It was mentioned that one didn't have to believe in God or heaven to buy the ending either. The "end" is up to interpretation and the church and light was simply the most recognizable symbols (a little predictable for me). I would have preferred something else.

Also, Matthew F ill can't figure out the polar bears.

I guess it's time for me to rent "The Wire".

I'm not happy with that message. I reject the notion that all of their lives were that empty.

Originally posted by Palynka
I've read it was some kind of purgatory/limbo and sounds consistent with what you're saying. Be what it was, if it was some "test" how can it be "real"?

There were two concurrent existences/storylines in the final season. One was real and, as it turns out, the other was metaphysical. The "Flash Sideways" where the plane never crashes was never real. The whole final season was a build up to the convergence of the two universes.

EDIT - Sorry, misinterpreted your comment. Nevermind.

Originally posted by Sunburnt
Yes. Love is everything, we are everything to eachother, blah, blah, blah. It was mentioned that one didn't have to believe in God or heaven to buy the ending either. The "end" is up to interpretation and the church and light was simply the most recognizable symbols (a little predictable for me). I would have preferred something else.

Also, Matthew F ...[text shortened]... ill can't figure out the polar bears.

I guess it's time for me to rent "The Wire".

How did Ben not pass? In the end, he redeemed himself and ended up a good guy!

Originally posted by darvlay
There were two concurrent existences/storylines in the final season. One was real and, as it turns out, the other was metaphysical. The "Flash Sideways" where the plane never crashes was never real. The whole final season was a build up to the convergence of the two universes.

EDIT - Sorry, misinterpreted your comment. Nevermind.

So what was real? (I mean real in the sense that some purgatory/limbo alternate reality is not the everyday reality)

Originally posted by Palynka
So what was real? (I mean real in the sense that some purgatory/limbo alternate reality is not the everyday reality)

See my edit. I think that the whole thing being metaphysical is certainly a possibility. But if that's the case, I would be even more disappointed as the Producers and Writers of the show have been saying since Day One that the castaways were not dead and the island is not a purgatory/hell/whatever.

Originally posted by darvlay
See my edit. I think that the whole thing being metaphysical is certainly a possibility. But if that's the case, I would be even more disappointed as the Producers and Writers of the show have been saying since Day One that the castaways were not dead and the island is not a purgatory/hell/whatever.

I sincerely doubt they had a clear view of how it would end when they started it.

Originally posted by Palynka
I sincerely doubt they had a clear view of how it would end when they started it.

Yep. Thing is they've had three years to write an end to this thing and, in my mind, they could have done better. In the end, I regret nothing!

Originally posted by darvlay
There were two concurrent existences/storylines in the final season. One was real and, as it turns out, the other was metaphysical. The "Flash Sideways" where the plane never crashes was never real. The whole final season was a build up to the convergence of the two universes.

EDIT - Sorry, misinterpreted your comment. Nevermind.

Yeah, from what I gather, the island was real and not a purgatory. The other reality was the non-reality. The test was individual. Some people, like Ben, didn't do so well when faced with choices.

I don't think Ben was redeemed fully. Remember his daughter? There's that problem with murdering people. There were characters who were decidedly ego-driven and selfish but not always BAD. I hear being really bad keeps you out of heaven.

Or whatever.

Palynka: certainly, the show is not based in reality and the narrative inspired by various philosophies and novels.

I cried, that's all that matters.

:'(

Originally posted by Palynka
I sincerely doubt they had a clear view of how it would end when they started it.

I feel that was the downfall of a show I watched. Prison Break. They would have been fine to just let them escape and start a new season AFTER a conclusion.

Instead they cliff hung you near the end, and you miss ONE episode and you were out of the picture.

What? Huh? Thought they were dead! How did they catch him? Huh?

If they ended the season good or bad with a conclusion, that would have set you up to enjoy another season. Instead, they dragged it out.

If they had a conclusion they decided to ditch it due to the success of the series. They just ruined it by going on and on to the point my wife and I stopped watching.

P-

Originally posted by Phlabibit
I feel that was the downfall of a show I watched. Prison Break. They would have been fine to just let them escape and start a new season AFTER a conclusion.

Instead they cliff hung you near the end, and you miss ONE episode and you were out of the picture.

What? Huh? Thought they were dead! How did they catch him? Huh?

If they ended the seas ...[text shortened]... ries. They just ruined it by going on and on to the point my wife and I stopped watching.

P-

You didn't hang in there!

Prison Break was good for one season and then CRAP.

Originally posted by Sunburnt
You didn't hang in there!

Prison Break was good for one season and then CRAP.

"You didn't hang in".

Next you say, "It was good for one season".

So, you watched One good season and 2 or 3 crap ones?

What are you on about?

What do you NOT agree with that I wrote?

Originally posted by Palynka

I've read it was some kind of purgatory/limbo and sounds consistent with what you're saying.
Be what it was, if it was some "test" how can it be "real"?

Ever consider the notions that 'extravagance is of the essence of the scheme' and that human life, itself,

on planet earth may at times seem not unlike a 'trial by existence' (Robert Frost's phrases, not mine)?

Originally posted by Phlabibit
"You didn't hang in".

Next you say, "It was good for one season".

So, you watched One good season and 2 or 3 crap ones?

What are you on about?

What do you NOT agree with that I wrote?

What is your question?