@fart saidMust glory only be sought out by men with questionable goals?
Sacrifices may have to be made to achieve the glory.
For example, men willingly went and enlisted to fight in the civil war for adventure and hopefully glory.
They could have easily stayed home with their loved one but the desire for glory compelled them to go stand in a feild somewhere and face modern weaponry that didn't recommend standing in a line just to be shot or worse. ...[text shortened]... red more than anything also but I'm basing that on a movie I seen which prompted my question. (Troy)
Perhaps. Those who deserve glory rarely seek it out.
08 Apr 23
@divegeester saidYou just are not smart enough to understand how many of "WE" there are.
Maybe it’s the “we” Very Rusty is going on about?
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@suzianne saidAn example of those who don't seek it out but deserve it? Hopefully you don't mean acts of kindness or some other lame thing like that.
Must glory only be sought out by men with questionable goals?
Perhaps. Those who deserve glory rarely seek it out.
Every invention or action that changed our way of life was never done anonymously. Every weird accomplishment was also not done anonymously either but those people will be remembered forever.
I was putting infamous examples into the mix because Glory is relative.
I'm not referring to hurting people or anything crazy like that. That's just dumb. I'm just finding the whole life experience to be rather pointless and the only goal I can think of is to do something to be remembered for.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herostratus
I think the above link is the first example of what I mean. Herostratus burned a temple just to be remembered and they created a law where his name was never allowed to be mentioned.
@fart saidBeing remembered by those who knew me, loved me or who were loved by me personally, regardless of my outward achievements [i.e. glory], is a more meaningful 'prospect' while still alive - I'd say - than dwelling on being remembered for my achievements [and not for the inner/personal me] by unknown strangers.
I believe Glory is more important because you are remembered. Love is easy and short lived.
Meanwhile, it's all moot at the point of death as far as I am concerned as I believe death is the end of being able to perceive that one ever existed meaning that the sense that other people's remembrance is "short-lived" [or otherwise] is neither here nor there.
09 Apr 23
@fart saidGood God.
An example of those who don't seek it out but deserve it? Hopefully you don't mean acts of kindness or some other lame thing like that.
Every invention or action that changed our way of life was never done anonymously. Every weird accomplishment was also not done anonymously either but those people will be remembered forever.
I was putting infamous examples into the mix be ...[text shortened]... emple just to be remembered and they created a law where his name was never allowed to be mentioned.
I find glory for glory's sake to be unacceptable.
One should follow their path through life regardless of the reward. Their OWN path. The one they make for themselves. Far more fulfilling to be the master of your own ship.
Being remembered by history, but forgotten by your friends, is just very, very sad. People who seek this out are a dime a dozen. Better to have a meaningful life with purpose and love, than one governed by submitting to the whims of people who don't know you and don't give a damn about you.
09 Apr 23
@herostratus saidHello @herostratus, welcome to RHP.
@FMF
That is why nobody will remember your name.