18 Jan 06
Originally posted by SuzianneHopefully, yes. It's close to 11pm here. But (and I am guessing), they might need to process the turn moves first, so who knows when the results may be available.
So this means here in like 20 minutes from now?
I see a lot of games go to 40 moves or more, so don't get your hopes up. This is a long-haul tournament. We'll do well to get it done in under 30 weeks or seven months.
18 Jan 06
Originally posted by rwingettThe primary advantages are that you get to annex more than seven provinces, become royalty, can have more than 200 troops and hire commanders. It could be an edge. Tell us when/if you do that?
Amongst everyone, or just you? I fully intend to start paying once I've gotten more than 7 provinces.
18 Jan 06
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Originally posted by buffalobillI am sure that we will recieve some sort of proclaimation stating that it has been found that *so-and-so ruler* has been found to be of royal blood and garnered a greater strength from it or some such thing.
The primary advantages are that you get to annex more than seven provinces, become royalty, can have more than 200 troops and hire commanders. It could be an edge. Tell us when/if you do that?
8$ a month really is not that bad. of course, ya gotta get there before it becomes a worthwhile venture.
18 Jan 06
Originally posted by rwingettPerhaps I misunderstood, but I thought we were all going to play this game on an equal footing. Subscribing nets significant advantages and effects strategy NOW; I was planning to merely pillage my lesser valued conquests. Paying a mininum of $60 for an on-line wargame seems pretty steep if the game takes thirty turns or more.
Amongst everyone, or just you? I fully intend to start paying once I've gotten more than 7 provinces.
19 Jan 06
Originally posted by no1marauderI would normally agree with you there no1 - but think of it this way:
Perhaps I misunderstood, but I thought we were all going to play this game on an equal footing. Subscribing nets significant advantages and effects strategy NOW; I was planning to merely pillage my lesser valued conquests. Paying a mininum of $60 for an on-line wargame seems pretty steep if the game takes thirty turns or more.
Most PC gamers (not including the very nicely priced RHP site goers) - have to and WILL pay 40 - 60$ for a new game and it keeps them occupied for as little as a day and as much as a couple months. The MMORPGers pay around 15-20$ a month.
This is 8$ a month for a game that you are playing for a long time. If you are wanting to do it, wait til you have 7 provinces, then pay for a couple months. If you are still in the same or better position in a couple months, pay again.
People pay 30 - 100$+ per month on cable or for a pay-per-view event - This is just another form of entertainment. or 6 - 12$ a month for a magazine subscription....
Everyone has things they are willing to pay for and things that they are not.
Just a couple cents to toss out there...
19 Jan 06
Originally posted by no1marauderDon't sweat it, chump, you won't be around for five turns, let alone thirty.
Perhaps I misunderstood, but I thought we were all going to play this game on an equal footing. Subscribing nets significant advantages and effects strategy NOW; I was planning to merely pillage my lesser valued conquests. Paying a mininum of $60 for an on-line wargame seems pretty steep if the game takes thirty turns or more.
You can visit whatever hardships you want on your citizens, but it was never stated that no one would ever upgrade. Assuming I get to eight provinces, I fully intend to do so. The difference doesn't become really significant until you start getting up to about a dozen provinces. By that time, I'm sure several of us will have been relegated to the history books and won't have to worry about it.
It's perfectly feasible for a non-royal player to remain a viable force in the game. He may not be one of the top dogs, but he can still play a significant role. In the last game I played, the winning three realm coalition consisted of two royals and one commoner.
But in any case, I don't intend to be handicapped by your fiscal woes. Perhaps it is I who should be offering you the loan now.
19 Jan 06
Originally posted by KnightWulfeYou'll need more than a couple of cents to pay the subscription.
I would normally agree with you there no1 - but think of it this way:
Most PC gamers (not including the very nicely priced RHP site goers) - have to and WILL pay 40 - 60$ for a new game and it keeps them occupied for as little as a day and as much as a couple months. The MMORPGers pay around 15-20$ a month.
This is 8$ a month for a game that you ar ...[text shortened]... are willing to pay for and things that they are not.
Just a couple cents to toss out there...
19 Jan 06
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Originally posted by rwingettBut how can one win the game if you can only control 7 provinces at a time?
Don't sweat it, chump, you won't be around for five turns, let alone thirty.
You can visit whatever hardships you want on your citizens, but it was never stated that no one would ever upgrade. Assuming I get to eight provinces, I fully intend to do so. The difference doesn't become really significant until you start getting up to about a dozen provinces handicapped by your fiscal woes. Perhaps it is I who should be offering you the loan now.
19 Jan 06
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Originally posted by Freddie2006You can control any number of provinces. But commoners can only derive income from seven. They can partially get around that by pillaging the remainder every other turn, which would effectively give them 50% income on their provinces in excess of seven.
But how can one win the game if you can only control 7 provinces at a time?
19 Jan 06
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Originally posted by rwingettThe point isn't my non-existent "fiscal woes"; the point is you invited people from RHP to play in the game. Most didn't know that paying would give them significant advantages over non-payers in actual game play. RHP doesn't give subscribers an extra Knight or say non-subscribers can only promote to a Bishop. The rules are unfair and if I had thought people from this site who you invited into a friendly game were going to be handicapped in this way I wouldn't have joined. The honorable thing would be for all players to voluntarily agree to forego subscribing in this, the first, game.
Don't sweat it, chump, you won't be around for five turns, let alone thirty.
You can visit whatever hardships you want on your citizens, but it was never stated that no one would ever upgrade. Assuming I get to eight provinces, I fully intend to do so. The difference doesn't become really significant until you start getting up to about a dozen provinces handicapped by your fiscal woes. Perhaps it is I who should be offering you the loan now.
I'd be quite content to put it to a vote; YES, players should be allowed to subscribe and gain the advantages or NO players should not be allowed to subscribe in this game and everybody plays on an equal footing.