Mexico: Is a fence really good enough?

Originally posted by widget
Canada's already full... 🙄 Move along, move along...😉 There's nothing worth considering here 😀

No it's not. You guys all keep clustering around our northern border. Half your country is empty.

It's kinda like Mexico. The Mexican northern states have stronger economies than the rest.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
No it's not. You guys all keep clustering around our northern border. Half your country is empty.

It's kinda like Mexico. The Mexican northern states have stronger economies than the rest.

actually most of canada's money is in the northern part of canada...away from the border, and nearer to the diamond mines.

but you can believe that if you want!

Originally posted by MrHand
Grace has bare skin down to her navel there??? wtf? She is supposed to be in business attire it seems. Jack made that show. It was so so overall. Without him & Karen, it would have been cancelled in the first season.

0:02 - look at her neck. There seems to be a high neckline of a flesh colored shirt. It could just be the angle I suppose.

Originally posted by Nowakowski
they like small classics... are you clueless? everyone likes trucks, but they don't like owning them... otherwise thats what they'd buy.

Are these illegal immigrants fleeing from poverty BUYING vehicles or stealing them?

I've never seen a low rider in anything other than media of some sort, but I live and grew up in a neighborhood full of illegal immigrants.

Originally posted by Nowakowski
wages greater than what mexicans make... thats why 30 of them live in a one room studio and all go buy 20lbs of lunchmeat to live off of... they don't have livable wages, they save every penny together to stay alive, and send every other penny that they make here, back to mexico...
stealing it from our economy illegally.

then the employers of these p tic wages for people like you and me to live off of.

well maybe not you, but everyone else.

They don't have "livable wages" but they live. How does that happen? They're magic people! That's why Willy Wonka hired the Oompa Loompas. Brown people have powers that the white man (I saw a diagram that said Japanese were white once, and Russians like to say they're white, and sometimes become neo-Nazis despite Hitler claiming they're an inferior race, so whatever you are, you're probably white) can never understand!

But wait...that doesn't explain pritybetta. She has these powers too and gets her news from white supremacist websites.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Are these illegal immigrants fleeing from poverty BUYING vehicles or stealing them?

I've never seen a low rider in anything other than media of some sort, but I live and grew up in a neighborhood full of illegal immigrants.

typically they buy cheap used vehicles, or use public transpo... and when i lived in southern california, their were plenty of low riders. Any of them who have "made it" end up buying/building one.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
They don't have "livable wages" but they live. How does that happen? They're magic people! That's why Willy Wonka hired the Oompa Loompas. Brown people have powers that the white man (I saw a diagram that said Japanese were white once) can never understand!

they arn't livable, if they were, they would live on them for long period of time (decades) but instead they end up getting deported, or move on to another higher job after becoming proficient enough.

so their wages arn't livable, they're survivable.

Originally posted by Nowakowski
they arn't livable, if they were, they would live on them for long period of time (decades) but instead they end up getting deported, or move on to another higher job after becoming proficient enough.

so their wages arn't livable, they're survivable.

Their wages aren't livable because these guys get deported or promoted? That doesn't make sense.

I think you're using "livable" to mean "able to afford the minimum level of luxury that I wouldn't want to live without".

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Their wages aren't livable because these guys get deported or promoted? That doesn't make sense.

I think you're using "livable" to mean "able to afford the minimum level of luxury that I wouldn't want to live without".

no....i think i'm using it to show you that they can't "live" off of it for prolonged periods of time. What happens to the mexicans after their short stint?

They get deported, go back home, and spend all the money they earned here illegally to live in a more luxurious fashion then they ever could have in the states.

Originally posted by Nowakowski
no....i think i'm using it to show you that they can't "live" off of it for prolonged periods of time. What happens to the mexicans after their short stint?

They get deported, go back home, and spend all the money they earned here illegally to live in a more luxurious fashion then they ever could have in the states.

It seems you're saying that we can determine whether a wage is "livable" or not by figuring out whether an illegal immigrant can work at the job for decades without being deported or promoted. Do you really mean that?

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
It seems you're saying that we can determine whether a wage is "livable" or not by figuring out whether an illegal immigrant can work at the job for decades without being deported or promoted. Do you really mean that?

no, thats not what it seems like i'm saying. thats what your misreading.

it seems we can determine a wage as livable if a worker can hold it for "decades" without having to change jobs, or fall victim to long standing poverty by means of bankrupcy, or gets hurt with lack of insurance and can't fix himself.

if it is livable, these "effects" (deportation,promotion) wouldn't be neccesary to help "save" them from the long term "effects" they WOULD feel if they COULD keep the job for long term.

Originally posted by Nowakowski
no, thats not what it seems like i'm saying. thats what your misreading.

it seems we can determine a wage as livable if a worker can hold it for "decades" without having to change jobs, or fall victim to long standing poverty by means of bankrupcy, or gets hurt with lack of insurance and can't fix himself.

if it is livable, these "effects" (deporta ...[text shortened]... rom the long term "effects" they WOULD feel if they COULD keep the job for long term.

Why would anyone want to stay in a job for decades without getting promoted?

Why did you say

"they arn't livable, if they were, they would live on them for long period of time (decades) but instead they end up getting deported, or move on to another higher job after becoming proficient enough.

so their wages arn't livable, they're survivable."

That implies that a wage is not livable if you can't hold the job for long periods of time (decades) because you will get deported or promoted.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Why would anyone want to stay in a job for decades without getting promoted?

Why did you say

[i]"they arn't livable, if they were, they would live on them for long period of time (decades) but instead they end up getting deported, or move on to another higher job after becoming proficient enough.

so their wages arn't livable, they're surviv ...[text shortened]... e job for long periods of time (decades) [b]because you will get deported or promoted.[/b]

it doesn't imply anything. it directly states "they cannot" and so "they must" in order to "survive".

Originally posted by Nowakowski
they like small classics... are you clueless? everyone likes trucks, but they don't like owning them... otherwise thats what they'd buy.

My Dad bought three in a row I think. He now drives one and I drive his old one.

Originally posted by Nowakowski
it doesn't imply anything. it directly states "they cannot" and so "they must" in order to "survive".

Show me the words "cannot" and "must" in that post.