03 Feb 09
Originally posted by ivan2908http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/if
Is it "whenever" or I mixed something up ?
"Main Entry: if
Part of Speech: conjunction
Definition: provided that
Synonyms: with the condition that, supposing that, conceding that, on the assumption that, granted that, assuming that, on the occasion that, whenever, wherever, in case that "
04 Feb 09
Originally posted by NatsiaIf only that were complete.
http://thesaurus.reference.com/browse/if
"Main Entry: if
Part of Speech: conjunction
Definition: provided that
Synonyms: with the condition that, supposing that, conceding that, on the assumption that, granted that, assuming that, on the occasion that, whenever, wherever, in case that "
04 Feb 09
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Originally posted by ivan2908The construct "if" in human thought is most always conditional. Some languages of the civilized world, including the Koine Greek (common
Is it "whenever" or I mixed something up ?
language of the streets) allow for its expression, even though usage within contemporary American/English doesn't. Four qualifier nuances
I'm aware of: 1st Class- If and it's true; 2nd- If and it's not true; 3rd- If and it may be true; 4th- If and I wish it were but know it's not true.
04 Feb 09
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Originally posted by PhlabibitNow that a bit harsh, isn't it ? I was writting a letter and I wanted the letter to sound good. Where's the problem ? I know that people here speak English fluently so I wanted to check.
Are you the new Grampy Bobby?
Get a coffee, consult a doctor about your medication dosage, put the bong down... do something.
P-
I know that you play guitar. Me also so if you asked some question about music theory or chords I would anwser to you and try to help you with a sentence or two while avoiding unnecessary whinning, Mr. Forum Comentator.
04 Feb 09
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Originally posted by ivan2908Without "if" we would not have "what if?" which is a valuable premis to humankind.
Is it "whenever" or I mixed something up ?
Also without "if" we wouldn't have Kiplings IF, it would be Kiplings "Whenever". Doesn't really work so I think if is a great little word:
If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
But make allowance for their doubting too;
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or, being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or, being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise;
If you can dream - and not make dreams your master;
If you can think - and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with triumph and disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools;
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breathe a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on";
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings - nor lose the common touch;
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much;
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run -
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And - which is more - you'll be a Man my son!
Rudyard Kipling
04 Feb 09
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Originally posted by ivan2908Ivan, context often determines correct wording. If you're at liberty to do so, please post the (problem) sentence your're constructing. Thanks.
Now that a bit harsh, isn't it ? I was writting a letter and I wanted the letter to sound good. Where's the problem ? I know that people here speak English fluently so I wanted to check.
I know that you play guitar. Me also so if you asked some question about music theory or chords I would anwser to you and try to help you with a sentence or two while avoiding unnecessary whinning, Mr. Forum Comentator.
Edit: Recasting your sentence to eliminate the informal 'if' and replacing it with 'shall I' or 'should I', etc., may offer the solution
04 Feb 09
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyIf is an integral component of life.
Ivan, context often determines correct wording. If you're at liberty to do so, please post the (problem) sentence your're constructing. Thanks.
Edit: Recasting your sentence to eliminate the informal 'if' and replacing it with 'shall I' or 'should I', etc., may offer the solution
04 Feb 09
Originally posted by Grampy BobbyThanks for the help but I managed to solve my "problem" by asking help from English language teacher at the university. So everything fine now and letter sent. 🙂
Ivan, context often determines correct wording. If you're at liberty to do so, please post the (problem) sentence your're constructing. Thanks.
Edit: Recasting your sentence to eliminate the informal 'if' and replacing it with 'shall I' or 'should I', etc., may offer the solution
That "if" was just a detail but I like details, especially if I am writting something important.