06 Sep 05
Originally posted by GalaxyShieldAs much jello as you wish, any flavour. Just one little, insignificant, cockroach of a human being. And no, he's not a big guy or nothing, fairly small for his age.
Possibly, depends on who I have to take out and how much jello you'll provide. So, just a maybe for now.
06 Sep 05
Originally posted by UmbrageOfSnowis that a fifth of a liter? ... what's he doing while you're injecting all that? ...
Inject air into the veins. Almost impossible to detect since they don't usually x-ray dead bodies and it escapes when they open them up. About 200 ccs of air is required to kill a person just for the record.
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06 Sep 05
Originally posted by UmbrageOfSnowThat would work too. Anthing painfull would be preferred. How much less jello would you require?
I just want to say that I can deliver his dead body for less jello than galaxy demands. With him you are really just paying for the limb eating. Would you be satisfied with ebola and him bleeding from the eyes?
06 Sep 05
Originally posted by UmbrageOfSnowThe only real problem with this method is that the largest commonly available syringe is 50 cc (ml) And injection points can usually be seen.
Inject air into the veins. Almost impossible to detect since they don't usually x-ray dead bodies and it escapes when they open them up. About 200 ccs of air is required to kill a person just for the record.
Paracetamol overdose is a good one. You can build up the blood levels over a few days slowly, it kills a couple of days after toxic levels are reached, once the toxic level is reached and 12 hours have passed there nothing anyone can do about it. Only real problem is concealing the horrible bitter taste of the drug.
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06 Sep 05
Originally posted by dagsit always depends on where you inject it. if you manage to inject it near the heart (obviously into a vein, not an artery), I think 50 cc will be enough, as it won't have a very long distance to disperse (not the exact word I'm looking for, but you know what I'm trying to say). Or isn't there a vein running past the skull base? If you manage to get the person unconcious first, you could inject it through the back of the mouth... I mean, who's gonna look for an injection point in the mouth???
The only real problem with this method is that the largest commonly available syringe is 50 cc (ml) And injection points can usually be seen.
06 Sep 05
Originally posted by angie88You can inject anywhere there is a large enough vein but going in through the mouth is not really an option.
it always depends on where you inject it. if you manage to inject it near the heart (obviously into a vein, not an artery), I think 50 cc will be enough, as it won't have a very long distance to disperse (not the exact word I'm looking for, but you know what I'm trying to say). Or isn't there a vein running past the skull base? If you manage to get the p ...[text shortened]... hrough the back of the mouth... I mean, who's gonna look for an injection point in the mouth???
Arteries are not usually much good for injecting anything unless you know what you're doing as they tend to bleed a lot even with relatively small holes (any who's had a radial art line or a femoral sheath will know what I'm talking about). Plus with an artery it (the air) has the entire circulation to be reabsorbed and spread out. With a vein its almost straight to the lungs and a P.E.
Several large veins run in the neck but my pick would be the sub-clavian (the same place CVC's usually get put) as it's large and easy to get at and insetion point is close to the heart/lungs. But you can't inject with a large bore needle (to get a lot in quickly) without leaving a needle mark.
I've seen people had IV lines primed while they were plugged in with no ill effects (about 20-30ml of air). Obviously this is not something any self respecting Nurse or Doctor will do. You need to inject a lot of air quite quickly to kill. Plus due to the way it kills the victim/patient will likely shows signs of hypoxia PM.
06 Sep 05
Originally posted by Moldy CrowNo that's true, but, if cause of death were the least bit suspicious or cause not obvious/immediately apparent it would be looked for and found.
45 mg of nicotine is a leathal dose , and is not looked for in most tox screens .
Thats why a drug that,
a) Is available over the counter
b) kills slowly so the recipiant is nowhere near you
c) is a common cause of accidental lethal overdose
d) irreversable effects
should be used.
That way the drug would be found, and the cause assumed to be accidental overdose.
Of course if the person went to the hospital and they reported not having taken any (before they died), a murder hunt would be on.