General
25 Feb 21
26 Feb 21
@wildgrass saidDrugs might make you happy for the moment, what about when the high is over?
Drugs can make you happy. I think characteristics like confidence, satisfaction and curiosity matter more than happiness.
-VR
26 Feb 21
@very-rusty saidWhat's your definition of happy then rusty- lasting, sustained contentment?
Drugs might make you happy for the moment, what about when the high is over?
-VR
26 Feb 21
@yo-its-me saidCertainly not drugs or drink for sure.
What's your definition of happy then rusty- lasting, sustained contentment?
My Wife, Children and grand-children keep me happy. Hell I even wake up each day happy. How many people can say that?
-VR
26 Feb 21
@very-rusty saidThat's exactly why I was asking you to clarify what you mean by the word 'happy'. It's a bit ambiguous isn't it? It's not a great word, in my opinion.
Drugs might make you happy for the moment, what about when the high is over?
-VR
Happiness can be faked and happiness can be bought with stimulants. Yes, for the moment, but what of it? Happy doesn't do time constraints.
Happy is probably best described as the opposite of sad. But many people are comfortable with sadness. If you're not I think you should be. Culture puts a heavy positive emphasis on the feeling of happiness above other things like contentment, compassion, empathy, satisfaction and curiosity. Moreover, an obsession with happiness means we can't embrace the benefits of sadness. Sadness can bring about acceptance (of circumstances or decisions). Sadness can cause deep relaxation and stress reduction and a connection with others (similar to the sentiment that 'misery loves company'😉.
26 Feb 21
@wildgrass saidHow does sadness affect the body?
That's exactly why I was asking you to clarify what you mean by the word 'happy'. It's a bit ambiguous isn't it? It's not a great word, in my opinion.
Happiness can be faked and happiness can be bought with stimulants. Yes, for the moment, but what of it? Happy doesn't do time constraints.
Happy is probably best described as the opposite of sad. But many people are co ...[text shortened]... tress reduction and a connection with others (similar to the sentiment that 'misery loves company'😉.
Summary: Feeling sad can alter levels of stress-related opioids in the brain and increase levels of inflammatory proteins in the blood that are linked to increased risk of comorbid diseases including heart disease, stroke and metabolic syndrome, according to a study.Dec. 16, 2015
-VR
26 Feb 21
@very-rusty saidSure. You're referring to unhealthy sadness. There's also research on the positive effects of sadness.
How does sadness affect the body?
Summary: Feeling sad can alter levels of stress-related opioids in the brain and increase levels of inflammatory proteins in the blood that are linked to increased risk of comorbid diseases including heart disease, stroke and metabolic syndrome, according to a study.Dec. 16, 2015
-VR
Are there negative effects of happiness too? Yes. Happiness without merit, for example, is very bad for you. We're looking for emotional balance, satisfaction. There's your philosophy.
https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/four_ways_happiness_can_hurt_you
26 Feb 21
@wildgrass saidSo you like to play Russian roulette to see what is going to happen?
Sure. You're referring to unhealthy sadness. There's also research on the positive effects of sadness.
Are there negative effects of happiness too? Yes. Happiness without merit, for example, is very bad for you. We're looking for emotional balance, satisfaction. There's your philosophy.
https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/article/item/four_ways_happiness_can_hurt_you
I sure wouldn't to many risks involved there. If someone is sad they should get professional help, especially if they are sad for a long period of time.
-VR
26 Feb 21
@very-rusty saidYes of course, the persistence of sadness in an irrational way is unhealthy. But now you're talking about pathology, not normalcy. But sadness is a normal human emotion. It is speaking to the larger point that parental happiness should not be linked to their child's. I would hope the child feels sadness, for example, if someone in their life passed away. Their sadness would not necessarily make me feel sad, as I would understand that their sadness is normal and healthy.
So you like to play Russian roulette to see what is going to happen?
I sure wouldn't to many risks involved there. If someone is sad they should get professional help, especially if they are sad for a long period of time.
-VR
26 Feb 21
@wildgrass saidGeeze , I wouldn't have known that had you not told me!
Yes of course, the persistence of sadness in an irrational way is unhealthy. But now you're talking about pathology, not normalcy. But sadness is a normal human emotion. It is speaking to the larger point that parental happiness should not be linked to their child's. I would hope the child feels sadness, for example, if someone in their life passed away. Their sadness would not necessarily make me feel sad, as I would understand that their sadness is normal and healthy.
-VR
27 Feb 21
@very-rusty saidlol you're so smart.
Geeze , I wouldn't have known that had you not told me!
-VR
28 Feb 21
@instantkarma777 saidWritten by John Lennon, sadly.
Happiness is a warm gun.
( song by the Beatles ).
