05 Jun 03
Tomorrow night I am going to see a group called YES who, after many breakups and member changes are back together in the classic line-up including Jon Anderson and Rick Wakeman. This will take me back to my teenage years in the early 70's. A couple of years ago I finally got to see Jethro Tull - brilliant!
Anyone else been to see a group 20 or 30 years too late?
Rhymester
05 Jun 03
Originally posted by RhymesterWell I'm still waititng to see Pink Floyd! 😉
Tomorrow night I am going to see a group called YES who, after many breakups and member changes are back together in the classic line-up including Jon Anderson and Rick Wakeman. This will take me back to my teenage years in the early 70's. A couple of years ago I finally got to see Jethro Tull - brilliant!
Anyone else been to see a group 20 or 30 years too late?
Rhymester
Seriously, if you have heard of Yes you might have heard of a 70's group of hippies called 'Gong'?
If so, I saw their 25th Anniversary gig in London which included the classic 1972-75 line up (minus Steve Hillage unfortunately 🙁 ), plus recreations of many of the other line up over the years.
What a great gig! I wasn't even born when they recorded their best albums.
06 Jun 03
Originally posted by VargYes I've heard of Gong but that's about all. As for Pink Floyd well I saw them in London when they built the Wall .. very impressive!
Well I'm still waititng to see Pink Floyd! 😉
Seriously, if you have heard of Yes you might have heard of a 70's group of hippies called 'Gong'?
If so, I saw their 25th Anniversary gig in London which included the classic 1972-75 line up (minus Steve Hillage unfortunately 🙁 ), plus recreations of many of the other line up over the years.
What a great gig! I wasn't even born when they recorded their best albums.
Rhymester
06 Jun 03
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Originally posted by VargIt has not been possible to see Pink Floyd since the release of The Final Cut in 1983. Pink Floyd ceased to exist after that. The entity that currently masquerades under the Pink Floyd marquee is nothing but a glorified David Gilmour solo act, with Rick Wright and Nick Mason trailing along to lend it some semblence of credibility. Simply put, no Roger Waters = no Pink Floyd. Gilmour was not even an original member of the group. He was brought in as a replacement for Syd Barrett.
Well I'm still waititng to see Pink Floyd! 😉
Seriously, if you have heard of Yes you might have heard of a 70's group of hippies called 'Gong'?
If so, I saw their 25th Anniversary gig in London which included the classic 1972-75 line up ...[text shortened]... eat gig! I wasn't even born when they recorded their best albums.
If David Gilmour had released Momentary Lapse of Reason as a solo album, I would have applauded it. But his blatant attempt to continue "riding the gravy train" under the Pink Floyd name is a travesty. Roger had the integrity to realize that Pink Floyd was no longer a functioning entity and started his own solo career. David Gilmour should have done the same.
06 Jun 03
Originally posted by rwingettHallelujah to that! I thought i was the only one who saw things this way. But, for balance, and to be fair to Gilmour, he did make a fantasic contribution to PF, and it wouldn't have been the same without him. What about Syd, though? He's painted as some kind of genius tragically burnt out by too much acid, but his solo stuff (much of it produced by Gilmour) isn't too flash imho. And pre-Gilmour Floyd owed its brilliance much more to Waters I think. My fave PF song is One of These Days, and Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun is my fave song title ever...
It has not been possible to see Pink Floyd since the release of [b]The Final Cut in 1983. Pink Floyd ceased to exist after that. The entity that currently masquerades under the Pink Floyd marquee is nothing but a glorified David Gilmour solo act, with Rick Wright and Nick Mason trailing along to lend it some semblence of credibility. Simply put, ...[text shortened]... functioning entity and started his own solo career. David Gilmour should have done the same.
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06 Jun 03
Originally posted by dfm65Yes, I agree that Gilmour was a vital part of Pink Floyd. I just wish he would have had the integrity to release the post-Final Cut albums as solo material, and not have tried to continue to milk the Pink Floyd name. I enjoyed his About Face solo album. Granted, it wasn't a great album or anything, but it was listenable.
Hallelujah to that! I thought i was the only one who saw things this way. But, for balance, and to be fair to Gilmour, he did make a fantasic contribution to PF, and it wouldn't have been the same without him. What about Syd, though? He's painted as some kind of genius tragically burnt out by too much acid, but his solo stuff (much of it produced by Gilmour) ...[text shortened]... s One of These Days, and Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun is my fave song title ever...
Barrett's solo stuff was heavily marred by his deteriorating mental condition. It was very difficult just to get him to function at all by that time. As a result, most of the tracks have a very rough, or unfinished quality to them. Nevertheless, I think The Madcap Laughs has a lot of good stuff on it, but it is admittedly for afficianados only. Of the Pink Floyd albums, Piper at the Gates of Dawn was very much Syd's brainchild. However, he was already being phased out by the time of Saucerful of Secrets, and only one track on that album was written by Syd.
06 Jun 03
I agree that Pink Floyd were better when they were a complete unit.
But, I really like The Division Bell, and I don't think it's fair to say they were Gilmour solo projects - Mason and Waters were still part of the group.
Anyway, Gilmour was what made Pink Floyd. I know many people who insist that Pink Floyd were great until Gilmour joined, but in my opinion, with Syd Barrett they were a run-of-the-mill 60's pop act with a few songs which were longer and kind of 'spacey' which made them stand out.
06 Jun 03
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Originally posted by RhymesterDude! Dude! Yes is one of my all-time favorite bands, though I was born during their heyday (mid-1970s) when musicianship was still a valuable commodity in rock music. Steve Howe is a total genius. I love how he lists blues players as his influences, but eschews blues chord progressions almost entirely. I've seen them a number of times (never with Rick, though) and the concerts are always a blast, especially since they're digging up some of the epics like "Revealing Science of God" and "Awaken." I watch the House of Yes DVD, like, once a month. Yes rules! THEY RULE!
Tomorrow night I am going to see a group called YES
So how was the show, man? Did they play anything from Relayer? If they played "Gates of Delirium" I'm going to be insanely jealous.
I saw Bill Bruford's jazz band, Earthworks, not too long ago. All of these guys just get better with age. Why is it that old rock musicians are considered "old farts" but old jazz players are considered "venerable?"
As to other old school bands that I've seen, I 've seen Rush a bunch of times (including last year), Kansas, the devastating musical force that is King Crimson, and I'm going to see Journey this summer. Don't laugh! When YOU can sing like Steve Perry, then you can call me cheesy. 😛
06 Jun 03
Originally posted by RhymesterYes - Deep Purple!. I was brought up on Deep Purple and Queen. DP wrote all their best songs (IMHO) in the early 70s and I was only born in 72. Didn't get to see them until 96 so that's 24 years too late. No chance of seeing them against since I moved to Microsoft-land in 99.
Tomorrow night I am going to see a group called YES who, after many breakups and member changes are back together in the classic line-up including Jon Anderson and Rick Wakeman. This will take me back to my teenage years in the early 70's. A couple of years ago I finally got to see Jethro Tull - brilliant!
Anyone else been to see a group 20 or 30 years too late?
Rhymester
Incidently, my mother used to be in the UK rock crowd in the late 60s and 70s (she sang as a backing singer for Rod Stewart and toured with the Stones and others - she told me all these wild stories like sneeking out the back of a venue with either Keith Moon or Keith Richards to get fast food for the band) and she actually dated Jon Lord (the brilliant DP keyboard player) for two years when DP used to play the jazz circuit in London, just before she met my Dad. Funny thing is that they both look alike - anyway she used to joke about going backstage at a DP gig and introducing me to Jon Lord just to see the look on his face :-)
And I finally got to see Guns'N'Roses in Tacoma last November just before they finally gave up the ghost. Been a fan of theirs since my 16th birthday when I got Appetite For Destruction.
Regards,
Paul.
07 Jun 03
Originally posted by schweigiI've seen Iggy 3 times, and they were all great! All 3 were in Melbourne. First, in '89 at The Palace, second at the Big Day Out i think in 95, and the other time was at the Palace too, I think, also in 95. At the Big Day Out he stage dived and no-one caught him. He hit my shoulder on his journey to the floor. My brush with fame! That first concert was the best i've been to. Also seen David Bowie a couple of times...
I am going to see Iggy Pop next weekend ...
07 Jun 03
Originally posted by VargI have nothing against The Momentary Lapse of Reason, and The Division Bell per se. I think they would have made very good David Gilmour solo albums. But as Pink Floyd albums, they are clearly second rate. They were Gilmour solo projects in everything but name, as Mason and Wright (not Waters) were just along for the ride. The post Syd Barrett lineup is obviously what made Pink Floyd famous, and Gilmour was an integral part of that. But I think it was Roger Waters who made Pink Floyd great.
I agree that Pink Floyd were better when they were a complete unit.
But, I really like The Division Bell, and I don't think it's fair to say they were Gilmour solo projects - Mason and Waters were still part of the group.
Anyway, Gilmour was what made Pink Floyd. I know many people who insist that Pink Floyd were great until Gilmour joined, but in my opinio ...[text shortened]... 's pop act with a few songs which were longer and kind of 'spacey' which made them stand out.
07 Jun 03
Originally posted by dfm65I will take this opportunity to point out that Iggy is from Detroit. 😀
I've seen Iggy 3 times, and they were all great! All 3 were in Melbourne. First, in '89 at The Palace, second at the Big Day Out i think in 95, and the other time was at the Palace too, I think, also in 95. At the Big Day Out he stage dived and no-one caught him. He hit my shoulder on his journey to the floor. My brush with fame! That first concert was the best i've been to. Also seen David Bowie a couple of times...
07 Jun 03
Originally posted by RhymesterIron Maiden are on tour just now-they just played at donnington at the weekend, although they're bringing out a new album so i don't know if you would call them quite "past their time" (and if you do...😠)
Tomorrow night I am going to see a group called YES who, after many breakups and member changes are back together in the classic line-up including Jon Anderson and Rick Wakeman. This will take me back to my teenage years in the early 70's. A couple of years ago I finally got to see Jethro Tull - brilliant!
Anyone else been to see a group 20 or 30 years too late?
Rhymester
and AC/DC are on tour supporting the rolling stones in germany just now
"Following their one-off US date at New York's Roseland, the band (AC/DC) continues with a serie of European dates supporting the Rolling Stones in Germany on their "2003 Licks Tour." "
and i think metallica are on tour justnow, although i don't know if you would call them past it either.
so, if chance allows, you could see maiden, metallica, AC/DC and the rolloing stomes this summer! all of whom are getting on in years...